You use material from the Plane of Shadow to shape quasi-real illusions of one or more creatures, objects, or forces. Shadow conjuration can mimic any sorcerer or wizard conjuration (summoning) or conjuration (creation) spell of 3rd level or lower. Shadow conjurations are only one-fifth (20%) as strong as the real things, though creatures who believe the shadow conjurations to be real are affected by them at full strength. Any creature that interacts with the spell can make a Will save to recognize its true nature.
Spells that deal damage have normal effects unless the affected creature succeeds on a Will save. Each disbelieving creature takes only one-fifth (20%) damage from the attack. If the disbelieved attack has a special effect other than damage, that effect is only 20% likely to occur. Regardless of the result of the save to disbelieve, an affected creature is also allowed any save that the spell being simulated allows, but the save DC is set according to shadow conjuration's level (4th) rather than the spell's normal level. In addition, any effect created by shadow conjuration allows spell resistance, even if the spell it is simulating does not. Shadow objects or substances have normal effects except against those who disbelieve them. Against disbelievers, they are 20% likely to work.
Ok so like everyone who witnesses it gets a save... so either a single save (and 80% chance) makes your Dimension Door totally fail; or ANYONE WHO FAILS THE SAVE (or hits 20%) THINKS YOU'RE OVER THERE, AND ANYONE WHO MAKES IT THINKS YOU'RE REALLY OVER HMYAH! The former is underpowered, the latter is kinda overpowered cause it, like, wouldn't end and they'd forever think you were either a) 20ft to the North-Notheast of where you 'really' are, or b) always in that same spot you teleported to all those years ago and never moved away from. Or you could work out some boring lame compromise :(
I wish my lesser Shadow Conjuration caught D Door :(
Aw hell IMA RESEARCH A LVL 3 LESSER DIMENSION DOOR AND MAKE MY DM LET ME SCREW AROUND WITH SHADOW CONJURATION! New save each round... limited duration.........? I don't know that's all I got. :D
Doesn't work. You can only mimic conjuration (summoning) and conjuration (creation) effects. D-Door is Conjuration (Teleportation).
I like the idea though. Creepy.
That's pretty sad. I didn't realize.
Anyway house rule. You are wherever you 'realized' you actually were (based on the 20%). Anyone else who is convinced you're elsewhere, only perceives you there, as an illusion, like Major Image. And you're unsensible. Until your next turn. I GUESS. Or if they see something pass through the fake you that they see. Yah. This spell makes me unsensible.
I'll do it, I swaer.
It would be cool though, it wouldn't even be 100% predictable. They might think you teleported/disappeared when you're really still there; or do nothing; or functionally teleport.
Or maybe I'd make the level 3 spell switch places with my companion. And then same shiz, and it dispels for any observer when they see something wonky happen. And it lasts some number of rounds, for some reason. Yeah not bad.
And for some reason it's "summoning". Or "creation". Either one. <,<
MINE.
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Any creature that interacts with the spell can make a Will save to recognize its true nature.k so like everyone who witnesses it gets a save
I don't understand witnessing to be interacting, but it sounds from your later post that you're heading into houserule territory anyway. I understand interacting to physical interaction. Something like: you're the target of the spell, the spell effect attempts to attack you, you step on the illusionary floor over the real pit, you make a reflex save to avoid falling into the illusionary pit.
Any creature that interacts with the spell can make a Will save to recognize its true nature.k so like everyone who witnesses it gets a saveI don't understand witnessing to be interacting, but it sounds from your later post that you're heading into houserule territory anyway. I understand interacting to physical interaction. Something like: you're the target of the spell, the spell effect attempts to attack you, you step on the illusionary floor over the real pit, you make a reflex save to avoid falling into the illusionary pit.
Aye I agree, I had an odd conceptualization of what it was talking about. Anyway I'll try to work out a cool Shadowdancer/shadow mindf#$$ with mah DM, some way or another ('_')b
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Ok so like everyone who witnesses it gets a save... so either a single save (and 80% chance) makes your Dimension Door totally fail; or ANYONE WHO FAILS THE SAVE (or hits 20%) THINKS YOU'RE OVER THERE, AND ANYONE WHO MAKES IT THINKS YOU'RE REALLY OVER HMYAH! The former is underpowered, the latter is kinda overpowered cause it, like, wouldn't end and they'd forever think you were either a) 20ft to the North-Notheast of where you 'really' are, or b) always in that same spot you teleported to all those years ago and never moved away from. Or you could work out some boring lame compromise :(
I wish my lesser Shadow Conjuration caught D Door :(Aw hell IMA RESEARCH A LVL 3 LESSER DIMENSION DOOR AND MAKE MY DM LET ME SCREW AROUND WITH SHADOW CONJURATION! New save each round... limited duration.........? I don't know that's all I got. :D
Shadow effects are quasi real effects. They are not illusions in a sense a figment is an illusion.
Shadow Fireball is real and the damage it deals is real. It's not an illusion of damage. A creature affected by a shadow fireball spell can use his willpower to try and resist the spell in addition to being allowed to use his reflex save to try and dodge the blast, but the burns are still very real and not just a part of his imagination.
I will try to avoid a discussion whether Shades allows Conjuration (teleportation) effects to be mimiced or not, but if there was an actual shadow spell that allowed you to copy Teleportation spells you would actually be teleported. You are not creating an illusion of teleportation and you are the one interacting with the spell not your enemies observing you.