Paralysis immunity and staggered condition

[Azaneal]

Today, in four hours, the group I´m DMing (all at 20th level) will fight against a red wyrm. The fighter has staggering critical with her falchion (15-20/x3, confirms automatically). Dragons are immune to paralysis, so are they immune to the staggered condition?

[concerro]

No. They are complete separate conditions. Immunity to one condition does not automatically mean you are immune to another one.

The critical confirms, but the dragon still gets a save. The dragon should be able to make the save as long as it does not roll a nat 1. You can also boost the dragon's AC if need by having it buff before combat.

[Azaneal]

concerro wrote:

No. They are complete separate conditions. Immunity to one condition does not automatically mean you are immune to another one.

Yes, I think so, but I wasn´t sure

concerro wrote:

The critical confirms, but the dragon still gets a save. The dragon should be able to make the save as long as it does not roll a nat 1. You can also boost the dragon's AC if need by having it buff before combat.

Probably he will save, but with staggering critical, if you saves, instead of 1d4 rounds, you´re staggered one round. One round with only one standard against a 20th level party is too much time... ;)

[concerro]

Azaneal wrote:

concerro wrote:

No. They are complete separate conditions. Immunity to one condition does not automatically mean you are immune to another one.

Yes, I think so, but I wasn´t sure

concerro wrote:

The critical confirms, but the dragon still gets a save. The dragon should be able to make the save as long as it does not roll a nat 1. You can also boost the dragon's AC if need by having it buff before combat.

You might want to return the favor or drop the dragon by a CR or two so he can have a caster remove the condition. Disarming the weapon or tripping the fighter on the way in also works. I don't think there are any spells that give immunity to being staggered though.

[Azaneal]

concerro wrote:

Azaneal wrote:

concerro wrote:

No. They are complete separate conditions. Immunity to one condition does not automatically mean you are immune to another one.

Yes, I think so, but I wasn´t sure

concerro wrote:

The critical confirms, but the dragon still gets a save. The dragon should be able to make the save as long as it does not roll a nat 1. You can also boost the dragon's AC if need by having it buff before combat.

You might want to return the favor or drop the dragon by a CR or two so he can have a caster remove the condition. Disarming the weapon or tripping the fighter on the way in also works. I don't think there are any spells that give immunity to being staggered though.

At level 20 the fighter cannot be disarmed; tripped, yes. Antimagic field will be more funny ;)

Thank you!