So, you probably now know that I run a Kingmaker campaign and am recording it on my HoustonPathfinder channel. Well, I have a group of friends who are 4e diehards, and after singing to them the praises of Kingmaker, I decided to try out a bi-weekly KM campaign, with 4th edition mechanics. I recorded the first session, and plan on doing so for the entire campaign. And they're starting at level 5, btw (not my choice). Currently uploading said session to this playlist:
http://bit.ly/Kingmaker4e
Anyway, this is my D&D channel, so please subscribe and comment on how I am doing. Maybe for once we can actually see two simultaneous campaigns side by side with Pathfinder and 4e, and see how they fare. Might put a stop to edition wars once and for all.
Simply curious - has this group tried Pathfinder at all? This would've been a good time to make a stand and had them run the AP in Pathfinder rules.
Well, if you listen to the videos, you'll hear a lot of disinterest in Pathfinder. And plus, as I mentioned before I'm already running a group in Kingmaker using the PF rules. Thus, I wouldn't want to do the same campaign using the same system twice a week. It already feels like I'm repeating myself.
This is merely an experiment (and I do love me some experiments :). Can the Paizo modules be run in 4e (or any other system) and still hold up as compelling, immersive campaigns? I think the answer is yes, and I think Paizo should consider printing 4e versions of their APs. Yes, I know what I just said is probably outright treason, and probably heresy, but think about it. WOTC modules are absolute garbage, with little story and even less depth. Paizo's modules are absolute brilliance, and full of roleplaying and clever story and hooks for the GM to create amazing campaigns. 4e, like it or not, has a huge player base. And like Apple does with iTunes and Safari for Windows, Paizo could simply use this as a tactic to either A: lure 4e fans over to Pathfinder, or B: at least make them fans of Golarion, even if it means it's under the 4e rules.
Personally, I'm a fan of both systems for different reasons, which is probably another topic. I also have friends who are firmly set in both camps, and I enjoy gaming with them much more than being set in one system.
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Writing a proper 4e module requires learning (and actually, mastering) a whole new system. It's not a 2ed-3ed switch, you have to write adventures while aware of things such as no flying PCs etc etc.
I won't even get into whole GSL side of the problem.
I perfer for Paizo to keep their energy focused on developing the PF ruleset and Golarion, rather than to spread themselves thin over two or more rulesets.
Gorbacz wrote: Writing a proper 4e module requires learning (and actually, mastering) a whole new system. It's not a 2ed-3ed switch, you have to write adventures while aware of things such as no flying PCs etc etc.
I won't even get into whole GSL side of the problem.
I perfer for Paizo to keep their energy focused on developing the PF ruleset and Golarion, rather than to spread themselves thin over two or more rulesets.
True, then again a 3rd party publisher could possibly pick it up. And yeah, the GSL is a b*&&~, but it is what it is.
The route I'm taking with this game, is just to simply houserule the things out of 4th edition that don't make sense in Kingmaker, like the PC's not being able to fly at epic level, and them still being mortal at level 30.
As an alternative, I will let Aerodus (the warlord) take the Epic Destiny that he got from the Dark Sun campaign setting, called "Immortality". It basically means, if you die, another potential hero a la The Talented Mr. Ripley, will take up your armor, and continue to fight under your persona (mechanically with the same stats). I thought it would make a cool story if his character did die after 21.
An epic destiny for the Dread Pirate Roberts?
Third episode is now up. Not sure why I didn't announce the 2nd one.
I've moved these videos to my personal channel, you can find them at:
http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL2EB047A67590A68D&feature=plcp
I'm running a Carrion Crown converted to 4E. I find the hardest part is deciphering all the different rules in play for enemies built for the AP into a version in 4E that keeps the same flavor of the encounter.
I agree that the PF AP's are great, and using 4E (my preferred system), I get the best of both companies.
My actual reason for writing, however, was that I was led to another one of your vids (just looking at related videos on the side), and really like the colored rubber bands as markers. I'm sure they are cheaper, and more versatile than most of the products created as markers.
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