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Jaime would be a Cavalier with levels in the prestige class "Kingsguard"
Jon Snow would be a Fighter/Ranger
Khal Drogo is totes a Barbarian
In truth most of the "warriors" in AGOT would be Fighters or Cavaliers. Robert and most of his Knights.
I could see Asha being a Rogue/Fighter, the same with the Red Viper.
I always pictured the Game of Thrones folk as d20 Modern characters with Advanced Classes in the D&D (and now Pathfinder) classes.
For example, Ed Stark is probably a Dedicated Hero 4/Fighter X.
With Fighter being an advanced class that requires:
BAB: +3
Feats: Archaic Weapon Proficiency, Light Armor Proficiency
Skills: 3 ranks in Knowledge (tactics)
Then the fighter advanced class would pretty much be the Core Rulebook fighter class.
So, fighter is easiest to get into by starting out as a Strong 3, but Fast 4, Tough 4, or Dedicated 4 are also relatively quick ways to qualify for it, and it is even conceivable to be a Smart 6 or Charismatic 6 before becoming a Fighter (such as a general or something like that).
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Well I'm currently playing "The hound" as my kingmaker character. I decided it before I even knew anything about this. Didn't even know that my "The hound" miniture was actually from the Song of fire and Ice, or that it was being made into a TV show. Of course, I know nothing of the show/books other than the first episode.
But I'm playing him as a Cav, order of the cockatrice, and took brigand as my campaign trait. Also have Natural born leader.
Plan on going Low-Templar for dirty fighting, and taking Battle Herald for more leadership points.
He has a faint ting of lycanthropy that exposes itself in his godless healing feat.
Course from what I read, he is far from any of this..
I always pictured the Game of Thrones folk as d20 Modern characters with Advanced Classes in the D&D (and now Pathfinder) classes.
This. The Game of Thrones/Song of Ice and Fire characters are so low-fantasy they might as well be non-fantasy. (In the beginning, at least - GRRM continues to dial up the magic bit by bit with each new book, which appears to be a Recurring Theme in the series.) So it's impossible to stat them up as Pathfinder characters.
If you want us to say "what would Game of Thrones characters be in Golarion", that's a different story altogether.
Though, no, Ned Stark would not be a Ranger.
Jeez like I said I'm just watchin the show so... beginning. Pre spoilers heh.Where exactly in the time line are we? Whose dead so far and all that? Is Jeoffry king? Tommin?
We'd have to nail that down first before deciding how to stat them out. Heck, Jamie would have to change his whole fighting style from what point you work on, or Arya for that matter.
If you are worried about spoilers, duck out now, i cant imagine how this thread could go and NOT provide a ton of spoilers (people will use events and actions from the series to justify levels and such).
I always pictured the Game of Thrones folk as d20 Modern characters with Advanced Classes in the D&D (and now Pathfinder) classes.This. The Game of Thrones/Song of Ice and Fire characters are so low-fantasy they might as well be non-fantasy. (In the beginning, at least - GRRM continues to dial up the magic bit by bit with each new book, which appears to be a Recurring Theme in the series.) .
I think magic is gaining more potency as What's-her-name's pet dragons get older and bigger and more powerful.
I just can't wait to learn why the seasons vary so much in length.
And by can't wait, I mean, I'm gonna have to wait about a decade or two until the series is finished to learn why the seasons vary so much in length.
You know someone did d20 rules for A Game of Thrones, right?
http://www.amazon.com/Game-Thrones-D20-Based-Gaming-Limited/dp/1588469417The system was the last major project done by Guardians of Order. White Wolf ended up buying the completed system and just published the books for it. The system is interesting if you can find a copy of it, but all of the major characters are statted out.
I ended up finding the deluxe edition linked above in the garbage bin at white wolf... best.internship.ever.
I ran an 18 month campaign using those rules, one of the best campaigns I've ever run. They're great rules and really manage to capture the setting. And the influence rules are some of the best I've seen.
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The flaws rules are pretty super too...
There was a Dragon magazine article with stats on all the major players as well, with the Night's Watch rangers as a prestige class.
Pretty interesting.
Personally, I think you HAVE to use the Noble class from Green Ronin's Freeport Companion to adequately describe anyone, though. :)
Sounds cool, but that price tag is nasty. $255 used. I hate when I miss out on good stuff.
Sounds cool, but that price tag is nasty. $255 used. I hate when I miss out on good stuff.
There's a PDF of it available from RPGNow.com.
There's a PDF of it available from RPGNow.com.Sounds cool, but that price tag is nasty. $255 used. I hate when I miss out on good stuff.
This is good news. Thanks
I also have the Guardians of Order "A Game of Thrones" RPG and am incredibly impressed with the kind of stuff that's in there.
Do note, however, that Green Ronin (I believe it was) has also released an "A Game of Thrones" RPG that they intend to continue support for, including new rules supplements and the like. Thus, if you're looking to get involved in roleplay in Westeros, it might behoove you to look into this version of the RPG, which is now endorsed by Mr. Martin himself.
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Back to the subject. I think they are all stat able in pathfinder rules.
Eddard Stark: Total fighter Aristocrat.
Robb Stark: Ranger/fighter.
Jamie Lannister: Yeah Cavaleir.
Tyrion Lannister: Rogue or aristocrat works. Maybe even Some kind of Spell less bard sense he seems to know allot of stuff and can talk his way out of trouble.
Cersei Lannister: Aristocrat all the way.
Khal Drogo: Yeah barbarian with maybe that mounted variant from the APG.
Daenerys Targaryen: Not sure on her, I can see aristocrat for sure. Maybe cleric Oracle or witch. Not sure at all.
Sandor Clegane: Fighter, Maybe cavaleir.
Gregor Clegane: Fighter/barbarian
Loras Tyrell: Cavaleir
That should just about cover allot of them.
And by can't wait, I mean, I'm gonna have to wait about a decade or two until the series is finished to learn why the seasons vary so much in length.
George RR Martin's writing pace on this series slowed to a crawl many years ago.
I would be very surprised if the series is ever finished. George RR Martin is not a young guy who takes care of himself.
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I have pulled my "Game of Thrones " book off of my book shelf. I haven't looked at it for a while, but it is a beautiful book, with nice full color illustrations, and lots and lots of detail.
Lets see one thing i have noticed is the prevalence of Multi classed characters. This makes sense, i think a multi classed character can better express a well rounded character, rather then a single classed specialist.
roughly here is how they are described in the book
Edard Stark is 14 level ( Man at arms 3 Noble 5 and Comander 6)
I am guessing a Man at Arms is akin to a fighter, a Noble an Aristocrat, and a comander would either be a Cavalier or some kind of 3.5 "Marshal" class.
Catelyn Stark Interestingly is a 5th level Noble.
The children range from 6th to 1st level characters with levels of noble men at arms etc.
Robert Barathon is 14 level ( Man at arms 4, Knight 2, Comander 3 and noble 5)
Cerci (Lanister) Baratheon is a 10 level noble.
Tywin Lannister is 16 level, (Noble 8 Comander 5 Knight 3)
Jamie Lanister is 14 level ( Man at arms 1, Knight 3, Brother of the kingsgard 7 and noble3)
Tyrion Lanister is 9th level ( Noble 7 and Spy 2)
This would probably be very easy to convert to Pathfinder. I think i would stick to fighter, cavalier, Aristocrat, rogue, the classes that don't have access to magic.
I too am curious about the seasons. Summer lasts for 9 years, and yet there are "summer" snows up in winterfell. I remember mentions of 100' deep snow drifts, and women smothering infants because they didn't want them growing up in the harsh winter.
So i wonder how does the seasons fit into things? What does "summer fall winter and spring" mean in that world? I get the impression that each "season" lasts for a number of our "years"
I doubt we will ever get much detail about the long seasons...i think the seasons are a literary device to move the story along. The story "song of ice and fire" is after all about the people, not Westeros weather patterns.
But the gamer in me wants to know.
I thought I read an article with GRRM where he said he would explain the fluctuating length of the seasons....and implied they weren't due to some kind of weird planetary stuff.
Thoros of Myr - Paladin
Melisandre - Sorcerer/Oracle?
Bran - Druid?
It's been made pretty clear that in Westeros the seasons last for several years, with the Spring/Autumn being more interim periods than considered actual seasons. More importantly, the seasons vary in their length, with some seasons being relatively short (a year or two) and others being ponderously long (the books so far all have dealt with the transition of the last Summer to the next Winter, and that summer has lasted for the better part of a decade.)
I thought that the "Summer" was just a time when the seasons acted as what we would call normal with mild winters and that the "Winter" was a time when the sun wouldn't rise for months or years.
But does this only happen on the continent of Westeros or is Winter felt all over the world? I'm not very familiar with the books is why I ask.
