
Leafar the Lost |

Green Arrow (Oliver "Ollie" Queen) is a fictional character that appears in comic books published by DC Comics. Created by Mort Weisinger and George Papp, he first appeared in More Fun Comics #73 in November 1941. His secret identity is Oliver Queen, billionaire and former mayor of fictional Star City. Dressed like Robin Hood, Green Arrow is an archer who invents trick arrows with various special functions, such as glue arrows, net arrows, explosive arrows, time bomb arrows, grappling arrows, fire extinguishing arrows, flash arrows, tear gas arrows, cryonic arrows, boxing-glove arrows, and even a kryptonite arrow. Originally developed as an archery-themed analogue of the very popular Batman character, writers at DC have developed Green Arrow into a voice of left-wing and progressive politics very much distinct in character from Batman, with his own supporting cast.
Hawkeye (Clint Barton), also known as Goliath and Ronin, is a fictional character that appears in the comic books published by Marvel Comics. The character first appeared in Tales of Suspense #57 (Sept. 1964) and was created by writer Stan Lee and artist Don Heck. Hawkeye joined the Avengers in Avengers Vol. 1 #16 (May. 1965) and has been a prominent member of the team ever since.
While Hawkeye has no superhuman powers (with the exception of the period when using Pym particles to become Goliath), he is at the very peak of human conditioning; he is an exceptional fencer, acrobat and a grandmaster marksman, having been trained from childhood in the circus and by the criminals Trick Shot, and Swordsman. Hawkeye has also been thoroughly trained by Captain America in tactics, martial arts, and hand-to-hand combat. Hawkeye excels in the use of ranged weapons, especially the bow and arrow, and carries a quiver containing a number of customized "trick-arrows". In his role as Ronin, Barton shows great proficiency with the katana and other melee weapons.
In a fight between them, it would start with them shooting their various trick arrows at each other. I would call that part of it a draw, because they are both master archers. I would give The Green Arrow a slight edge on that part of the fight. However, eventually they would run out of arrows, and the fight would end up being fought hand to hand. That is where Clint Barton would kick Oliver Queen's a$$.
Hawkeye has been trained in the martial arts by Captain America himself, who I have picked to defeat The Batman. It would be a tough fight, but in the end Hawkeye would defeat The Green Arrow with his martial arts skills, and not his arrows...

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Didn't Green Arrow mostly give up on the trick arrows some time back? I wouldn't discount Oliver Queen's martial abilities either, he may have not have been trained by America, but he's learned to draw on some feral qualities within. And he definitely has some berserk buttons you don't want to push.
Green Arrow wasn't conceived as much of a "left-wing" character but as a down-to-earth foil for the cosmically oriented heroes like his friend Green Lantern. In many ways Green Arrow is a conscience to those super-heroes frequently described as the "Gods" of the DC Universe. Sometimes this includes Batman, for while Batman is as mortal as Arrow is, his obsession with his personal crime war occasionaly did skid Wayne over the moral event horizon as those who remember the O.M.A.C project can attest.

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It's not a meaningful question as the abilities and powers of such characters WILL fluctuate based on writer and current plot.
In other words if a writer is writing the story, he can find justifiable reasons for either character to come out on top in a slugfest, or for both to lose, for that matter.

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Sorry, but Green Arrow has been trained by a group of assassins and Deathstroke's assasin/martial arts instructor. He beats Hawkeye in a hand to hand combat hands down. Hawkeye has got beat by more hand-to-hand 'wannabees' than Green Arrow showing his lack of martial arts mastery.
Deathstroke has beat Batman, Batman and Capt America are equal, Green Arrow beat Deathstroke twice.
Trick arrows = they're equal
Coming back from the dead = they're equal
Hand-to hand = Green Arrow
Smarts = Pym, he's one of the 10 smartest men on the planet

Freehold DM |

Sorry, but Green Arrow has been trained by a group of assassins and Deathstroke's assasin/martial arts instructor. He beats Hawkeye in a hand to hand combat hands down. Hawkeye has got beat by more hand-to-hand 'wannabees' than Green Arrow showing his lack of martial arts mastery.
Deathstroke has beat Batman, Batman and Capt America are equal, Green Arrow beat Deathstroke twice.Trick arrows = they're equal
Coming back from the dead = they're equal
Hand-to hand = Green Arrow
Smarts = Pym, he's one of the 10 smartest men on the planet
I disagree with this because(and correct me if I'm wrong here) at the time Hawkeye was getting his clock cleaned on the regular, the person writing really didn't care for the character- it was one of the reasons why he ended up getting superpowers with the Pym particles and became someone other than Hawkeye, I have hazy memories of a diatribe he had outlining his reasons for becoming Goliath. This is the opposite of what happened with Green Arrow, where a guy whose schtick was hitting people with trick arrows got a new writer and all of a sudden he's a master martial artist beating the crap out of everyone without breaking a sweat. Also, regarding the last sentence- since when is Pym himself in this fight?

Leafar the Lost |

Sorry, but Green Arrow has been trained by a group of assassins and Deathstroke's assasin/martial arts instructor. He beats Hawkeye in a hand to hand combat hands down. Hawkeye has got beat by more hand-to-hand 'wannabees' than Green Arrow showing his lack of martial arts mastery.
Deathstroke has beat Batman, Batman and Capt America are equal, Green Arrow beat Deathstroke twice.Trick arrows = they're equal
Coming back from the dead = they're equal
Hand-to hand = Green Arrow
Smarts = Pym, he's one of the 10 smartest men on the planet
I have to disagree with you on most of your points:
Martial Arts: Hawkeye was trained by Captain America, who is better in fighting than Batman, so he's better than Green Arrow.
Trick Arrows: Hawkeye's arrows are designed by Tony Stark, so they are far better than Green Arrow's arrows.
Coming back from death: egual, but that has nothing to do with their fight.
Smarts: Clint Barton and Oliver Queen seem to be equally smart, so that doesn't enter the equation.
Again, Hawkeye wins.

Dale McCoy Jr Jon Brazer Enterprises |

Green Arrow wins. Simple as that. He'll send an arrow down through hawkeye's heart and then he'll crash his plane and check himself into a monastery, die with Superman there to witness, Hal will bring him back again and we'll get more Green Arrow comics written by Kevin Smith.
Thus goes the circle of life.

Greg Wasson |

Dale McCoy Jr wrote:The only problem is that the ressurrection would only last as long as the ring charge. :)he'll crash his plane and check himself into a monastery, die with Superman there to witness, Hal will bring him back again
Haven't kept up on GL lore, so is this snark or GL cannon?
I'd have thought rezzing was an "over n done" with thing. Like smashing a building. Buildings don't rebuild themselves when a ring loses its charge.
I've always prefered Green Arrow over Hawkeye. So, I hope the writer has him win. Then again, over all, I prefer DC iconics over their Marvel counterparts.
Greg

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Green Arrow wins. Simple as that. He'll send an arrow down through hawkeye's heart and then he'll crash his plane and check himself into a monastery, die with Superman there to witness, Hal will bring him back again and we'll get more Green Arrow comics written by Kevin Smith.
Thus goes the circle of life.
Now my coworkers are wondering about why I'm chuckling.
Then again, I'm still bitter about the hows of Bobbi's resurrection.
Hawkeye wins for two reasons.
One, the line. "What a bunch of squadron surpreme wannabes!"*
Two, he beats Ollie at archery in JLA/Avengers in the shared world (and don't forget JLAvenvegers is DC Canon)
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LazarX wrote:Dale McCoy Jr wrote:The only problem is that the ressurrection would only last as long as the ring charge. :)he'll crash his plane and check himself into a monastery, die with Superman there to witness, Hal will bring him back again
Haven't kept up on GL lore, so is this snark or GL cannon?
Both actually. Hal Jordan went insane after Mongul destroyed Coast City. He tried to ressurrect it but he couldn't keep it around after his ring charge ran out. I think Jordan's ring is still old school unlike Rayner's.

wspatterson |

I'm inclined to think Ollie is a better archer, but Hawkeye is a better fighter. Especially with the way they've been writing him the last couple of years. He just seemed to pull ninja skills out of his quiver with no warning.
Now if they'd only give Hawkeye a decent costume. Ollie has better threads.

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Captain America, who is better in fighting than Batman
No way! Batman wins this hands down. Granted they tied in the comic. Batman has had way more and better training than Cap. Cap has the edge strength wise because of the Super Soldier serum but that doesn't get him the win over batman.

Leafar the Lost |

Leafar the Lost wrote:Captain America, who is better in fighting than BatmanNo way! Batman wins this hands down. Granted they tied in the comic. Batman has had way more and better training than Cap. Cap has the edge strength wise because of the Super Soldier serum but that doesn't get him the win over batman.
Fray, I guess almost everyone disagrees with me on my theory that the super serum made Captain America super smart too. That is why he has learned practically every fighting style on Earth. He taught himself how to throw and catch his invulnerable shield, and the ultimate Captain America is able to come up with a variety of battle tactics instantly.

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Fray, I guess almost everyone disagrees with me on my theory that the super serum made Captain America super smart too. That is why he has learned practically every fighting style on Earth. He taught himself how to throw and catch his invulnerable shield, and the ultimate Captain America is able to come up with a variety of battle tactics instantly.
That's not super-intelligence, it's an inborn talent for combat that had been shackled to a useless body before the Super Soldier treatment. He hasn't expressed any genius level intelligence outside of learning combat forms. Cap isn't a dullard, he's a talented combatant, an artist at drawing, and probably in the upper percentile of human scale intelligence, but he's no Reed Richards.