I'm just curious on everyone's point of view on this. Currently in the campaign I'm in we had a battle situation where some Goblins were concealed behind a door, had our ranged attackers prepare there bows, and allowed Attacks of Opportunity when they came in through concealment.
Following the rules of Attacks of Opportunity per round, do you feel this fair?
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I'm just curious on everyone's point of view on this. Currently in the campaign I'm in we had a battle situation where some Goblins were concealed behind a door, had our ranged attackers prepare there bows, and allowed Attacks of Opportunity when they came in through concealment.
Following the rules of Attacks of Opportunity per round, do you feel this fair?
You cannot make an attack of opportunity with a ranged weapon. You can, however, ready an action. It sounds like that's what you did, just without calling it that. Just keep in mind doing so burns their standard actions and changes their initiative position in the count.
You cannot make an attack of opportunity with a ranged weapon. You can, however, ready an action. It sounds like that's what you did, just without calling it that. Just keep in mind doing so burns their standard actions and changes their initiative position in the count.
Where does it state that in the rulebook, and why wouldn't it be considered an attack of opportunity if they're readying there bow and expecting a monster to come into their sight from 100% concealment (where the monster is unaware of the attacker) and ranged threat range, while following the attacks of opportunities per round?
I understand that it states that an attack of opportunity is a melee attack, but that's also why I'm curious on everyone's thoughts.
A character using a bow as his only weapon doesn't have a threat range. He could use it as an improvised weapon and whack'em on the head, but I don't think that's what you're after. You cannot use a bow to make a melee attack by shooting with it.
You can prepare an action to make an attack with a bow though, which seems what you've been doing.
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Where does it state that in the rulebook,I understand that it states that an attack of opportunity is a melee attack, but that's also why I'm curious on everyone's thoughts.
Taking out the middle you stated it right there where it says that.
A player can choose to make a readied action,hold their action etc.... until a particular circumstance happens.
Ie rogue comes back and says "their is some goblins coming"
And gets next to the door and hides. Player states I am holding my action till the 3rd goblin comes in room then attacking
the fighter and ranger say "we will stand back here and shoot them as soon as we see them" Players say I am holding my action till the first goblin comes through door and shoot him
The rogue in this situation would get an attack of opportunity as they pass by or he holds till the 3rd one passes and attacks. It is all based on what he thinks is best.
The other two never get an attack of opportunity but most certainly get to shoot as soon as the goblins walk through.
Yes I did just say what the other two people said but I explained it a little more since you counter posted the first guy.
A character using a bow as his only weapon doesn't have a threat range. He could use it as an improvised weapon and whack'em on the head, but I don't think that's what you're after. You cannot use a bow to make a melee attack by shooting with it.
You can prepare an action to make an attack with a bow though, which seems what you've been doing.
Threat range was wrong term to use, I'm tired right now, my bad. I meant within attack range with the bow.
Also, I just read the readying an action portion and the attacks of opportunity to clarify my mind, and within the realms of what is said I see why that an enemy walking out from behind a door or wall wouldn't provoke an attack for the ranged attacker... and every argument I keep thinking of I'm disproving before I can even finish writing it.Thanks for the help Alorha and stringburka
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Where does it state that in the rulebook,I understand that it states that an attack of opportunity is a melee attack, but that's also why I'm curious on everyone's thoughts.
Taking out the middle you stated it right there where it says that.
A player can choose to make a readied action,hold their action etc.... until a particular circumstance happens.
Ie rogue comes back and says "their is some goblins coming"
And gets next to the door and hides. Player states I am holding my action till the 3rd goblin comes in room then attackingthe fighter and ranger say "we will stand back here and shoot them as soon as we see them" Players say I am holding my action till the first goblin comes through door and shoot him
The rogue in this situation would get an attack of opportunity as they pass by or he holds till the 3rd one passes and attacks. It is all based on what he thinks is best.
The other two never get an attack of opportunity but most certainly get to shoot as soon as the goblins walk through.
Yes I did just say what the other two people said but I explained it a little more since you counter posted the first guy.
Yeah, but they're not attacks of opportunity, just readied attacks. An attack of opportunity is very specific, and only triggers when a creature does one of a specific list of things in an area you threaten. A ranged weapon does not threaten. You cannot make attacks of opportunity with it. You can ready for situations and have you attack trigger.
I think the confusion is just the label. Don't call the thing you're doing an attack of opportunity.