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Mind you, $20 for a 64 page staple-bound product is a bit too salty, so I tend to stay away from those.
$50 for a hardcover? Considering their size, okay, but I would balk at anything higher.
Note: our staple-bound books are, max, $13.99. Anything in the 19.99+ range is perfect bound or better.
And, as you point out, our $50 hardcover is quite fat. Compare our $40 hardcovers to some of the $35 hardcovers out there. I would like to see what you think of the comparison.
I stand corrected. $14 for a staple bound product still chafes a bit.
I would say the afore mentioned White Wolf has a higher quality standard in the $35-40 price range. Better binding, better quality board for the covers. The paper quality is about the same. You could argue about color. While Paizo does full color, White Wolf does black & white with a metallic overlay. If I remember right, that usually costs about the same to print as full color.
Then there is content, which can always be argued. I play different games with different people for different reasons. You can't really compare them.
I will say this. Since the days of Dragon and Dungeon, Paizo has provided some of the best writing in the industry. I just started playing Pathfinder in January and I am running Runelords. I have never run a fantasy adventure module with NPCs that are so believable and human. Half way through Burnt Offerings and my players have already fallen in love with Sandpoint and their characters want to buy a house there.
Usually with fantasy RPGs, I have to add NPC motivations and plots. With Paizo products, all I do is read and laugh knowing how much my players will enjoy the interactions.
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Note: our staple-bound books are, max, $13.99. Anything in the 19.99+ range is perfect bound or better.
I stand corrected. $14 for a staple bound product still chafes a bit.
Really???
$14 or less for a high quality, well written, full color 32 page (minimum) book seems pretty reasonable to me.
I've worked in the printing and publishing industry for 20 years. As far as I'm concerned, given the quality of the writing, game design, art, graphic design, paper stock etc., Paizo's products are extremely competitively priced.
I also have a first printing core book and the pages are threatening to fall out, if the fourth printing ones are as sturdy as the the APG (which is quite sturdy) I may have to retire it now and go buy another before disaster strikes
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I also have a first printing core book and the pages are threatening to fall out, if the fourth printing ones are as sturdy as the the APG (which is quite sturdy) I may have to retire it now and go buy another before disaster strikes
We're in the same boat. We have two CRBs from the first printing, both bought within the first month. We really need to invest in at least one more CRB to preserve our signed copy for the future...
I will say that my first printing core rulebook is very much in good shape.... And considering the way my players treat it, that is saying a lot.
Our group of Six people has had a potential problem with all of one book, one of the first printing core books But it actualy hasnt happend yet the owner jus tnoticed it wasnt holding as well as it could.
Generally speaking, Im fine with Paizo printing in China as a Canadian i really have no preference for wether Paizo prints in the Us or not and I trust them as a Company to be re-assured small children are Not being whipped as they hand Crank printing presses to chun out the books for our gaming needs.
Really as long as the quality holds up, im fine with it.