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NobodysHome wrote:My absolute favorite/most loathsome example of sick leave is the school district.
"If your child exhibits any of the following symptoms, please keep them home for the day, as if they infect others it can significantly impact everyone's learning."
(Long list of items, including fevers over 99.0°F, vomiting, etc.)And yet if you hit 8 sick days for the school year, you get a threatening letter from the school board that they're going to report you to the truancy office and Child Protective Services for child neglect.
Uh... Taking care of your child is neglect? I thought that Australia is the place where everything is upside down...
Here the primary difference is (or at least was in my times) presence of formal note from the MD. The parent could excuse the kid a few times on minor issues, though longer absences required doctor's confirmation.
As long as the kid was able to catch up with the material (which might include necessity necessity for extra tests), excused absences were not a major problem. I think I missed a month once because of extended sickness. Not really sure, though, it was long ago... Those could have been multiple separate absences of two three weeks.
Keep in mind that around here every visit to the doctor's office involves a $70-$140 fee, plus the parent taking time off work. See above for Vanykrye's statement about time off to take your kid to the doctor.
EDIT: Using the insanity clause works, but only if invoking it while naked. Klinger just had it wrong.

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In the Dresden Files series (Book 6 or 7? Somewhere in there, name of the book is DEAD BEAT)
(SPOILER ALERT-If you want to read this book and be surprised, Dont read the spoiler!)
** spoiler omitted **
Best. Scene. In. A. Novel. EVER.
:)
I would put forth Pug/Milamber's reaction to the Imperial Games on Tsurani as perhaps its superior.

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Drejk wrote:His company, somehow, actually has some of the better policies in Corporate America.Vanykrye wrote:You expect his corporation to accept "being hit by a flaming bike for discussing politics" as a valid sick leave?Fire away, Fritzy. At NH. His fault.
Well, it's from the whole 1990s Silicon Valley, "Hey, let's actually treat our employees like human beings!" trend. My company was actually one of the last to pick up things like flexible hours, infinite sick and vacation time, and the like. But that was such the standard around here that they were losing employees in droves over their draconian policies, and their very first annual employee survey told them how unhappy employees were.
I'll give the execs credit: They actually listened. And that's a pretty rare thing.
But both Shiro's and GothBard's companies had infinite sick/vacation time before mine did.
EDIT: Of course, SOME people's "infinite" is better than others'. Shiro's an exec, so he has to plan vacation time months in advance to get any. GothBard's cadence doesn't let up just because she's sick or away, so she has to either get ahead or catch up. I've been the senior lead in my department for 14 years. I can get away with, "Hey, I'm taking the rest of the week off," and my manager says, "OK."
But of course I don't pull that very often, so we have a large amount of mutual trust.

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Oh. My. Wooooooooorrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrd.
Ascendance of a Bookwyrm is just... it's just... I didn't know I wanted this anime. I mean, I thought I'd like it, but. But.
Hhhhhhhrrrrrrrrrrrrnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn. My heart, man.
I'm too overweight to for it to be played like a fiddle like that!
It's so much warmer and human than I expected.
Also is that... Holland... France... Japanese fantasy?
Whatever, it's amazing. I love it.
I have no idea if any of you will. That's fine. If you love it - good. If not, this is my thing for me. >Hugs this anime.<
Freehold will research the H associated with this anime.

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Oh...there ya go...INFINITE. That's not something that I've heard of happening in the Midwest US.
Or anything smaller than a megacorporation. That kind of policy would cripple a small operation (well maybe not a mom and pop shop where everyone is related to the owner/operators, but still).
I am not sure at what size employees become fungible, but it is something north of 50 or so.

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"Okay, our article today is about the coronav-"
"NOT AGAIN"
"Look, every option I had to pick from had something to do with the coronovirus. Deal with it."
Option 1) Coronovirus
Option 2) Trump Administration Handling of CoronavirusOption 3) Democratic Primary
Option 4) How the Democratic Candidates Would Handle Coronavirus
Option 5) Cat Videos So Cute Your Spine Slides Out

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My absolute favorite/most loathsome example of sick leave is the school district.
"If your child exhibits any of the following symptoms, please keep them home for the day, as if they infect others it can significantly impact everyone's learning."
(Long list of items, including fevers over 99.0°F, vomiting, etc.)And yet if you hit 8 sick days for the school year, you get a threatening letter from the school board that they're going to report you to the truancy office and Child Protective Services for child neglect.
I know. I get one every year for Impus Minor.
And, being me, I called the office to complain, and they said, "Oh, that's just a form letter the state requires us to send. Just ignore it."
Er... no.
You can't threaten me with CPC and then say, "Oh, just ignore the letter."
My kid's going to school sick until you stop threatening me with life-changing assaults.
I have been involved in this before, professionally.
It is set up to ensure minimum lawsuits through EVERYONE involved losing.

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Heck, when I had a cracked tooth removed a few months back, my supervisor was calling me the day after surgery asking when I'd be back in the office.
I wasn't even back to solid foods yet.
Been there before too. Posted about it here. I wasnt kidding when I offered to show my then supervisor my tooth as proof that I was out for emergency oral surgery. I DID show them my gauze filled mouth the day afterwards.
The company's base viewpoint is that the employee is ALWAYS lying, and that leads to problems.

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Orthos wrote:I remember getting sick in Jr high with pneumonia and being completely out of commission for two weeks.
If that happened now I would be out a whole paycheck and thus fail to meet multiple monthly payments, debts, and dues. Almost none of which would care for any excuse why I didn't meet my pay date. The rest would slap a late fee on it but accept late payment... as long as it's not TOO late.
And places that do give paid time off...it's vastly inconsistent from company to company.
In my company, we get one pool of PTO, plus 6 paid holidays separate. That single pool is used for sick time, vacation, whatever. So someone decides they want to take a family vacation in May, and they have the PTO for a week off. They take it. Great. All is groovy. Then in June they get pneumonia, with no PTO left because they DARED to take time off work to spend time with their family. People have lost their jobs because of these scenarios. Oh, and until very recently, our PTO didn't roll over from year to year. Use it or lose it. So don't use it because you might get sick or get in a serious car accident...and then you have the entire company trying to take time off between Thanksgiving and Christmas because *everyone* saved their PTO and nobody wants to lose the benefits...
Fire away, Fritzy. At NH. His fault.
Awful. Just awful.

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Drejk wrote:The problem is that the investigative processes and threatening letters are kicked off without thought. And people do get investigated, and even when the parents have all the evidence to back them up, sometimes children are pulled from the home during the investigation and the investigations can take months. It's archaic.NobodysHome wrote:My absolute favorite/most loathsome example of sick leave is the school district.
"If your child exhibits any of the following symptoms, please keep them home for the day, as if they infect others it can significantly impact everyone's learning."
(Long list of items, including fevers over 99.0°F, vomiting, etc.)And yet if you hit 8 sick days for the school year, you get a threatening letter from the school board that they're going to report you to the truancy office and Child Protective Services for child neglect.
Uh... Taking care of your child is neglect? I thought that Australia is the place where everything is upside down...
Here the primary difference is (or at least was in my times) presence of formal note from the MD. The parent could excuse the kid a few times on minor issues, though longer absences required doctor's confirmation.
As long as the kid was able to catch up with the material (which might include necessity necessity for extra tests), excused absences were not a major problem. I think I missed a month once because of extended sickness. Not really sure, though, it was long ago... Those could have been multiple separate absences of two three weeks.
See above.

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Drejk wrote:NobodysHome wrote:My absolute favorite/most loathsome example of sick leave is the school district.
"If your child exhibits any of the following symptoms, please keep them home for the day, as if they infect others it can significantly impact everyone's learning."
(Long list of items, including fevers over 99.0°F, vomiting, etc.)And yet if you hit 8 sick days for the school year, you get a threatening letter from the school board that they're going to report you to the truancy office and Child Protective Services for child neglect.
Uh... Taking care of your child is neglect? I thought that Australia is the place where everything is upside down...
Here the primary difference is (or at least was in my times) presence of formal note from the MD. The parent could excuse the kid a few times on minor issues, though longer absences required doctor's confirmation.
As long as the kid was able to catch up with the material (which might include necessity necessity for extra tests), excused absences were not a major problem. I think I missed a month once because of extended sickness. Not really sure, though, it was long ago... Those could have been multiple separate absences of two three weeks.
Keep in mind that around here every visit to the doctor's office involves a $70-$140 fee, plus the parent taking time off work. See above for Vanykrye's statement about time off to take your kid to the doctor.
EDIT: Using the insanity clause works, but only if invoking it while naked. Klinger just had it wrong.
Okay, maybe I was wrong. The doctor wins via copays.

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Ragadolf wrote:We are going to disagree here for...reasons.In the Dresden Files series (Book 6 or 7? Somewhere in there, name of the book is DEAD BEAT)
(SPOILER ALERT-If you want to read this book and be surprised, Dont read the spoiler!)
** spoiler omitted **
Best. Scene. In. A. Novel. EVER.
:)
I'm pretty sure Scint is right in that you haven't read the same book series we did. Your copy was edited and approved by an insurance company or something.

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Scintillae wrote:"Okay, our article today is about the coronav-"
"NOT AGAIN"
"Look, every option I had to pick from had something to do with the coronovirus. Deal with it."Option 1) Coronovirus
Option 2) Trump Administration Handling of Coronavirus
Option 3) Democratic Primary
Option 4) How the Democratic Candidates Would Handle Coronavirus
Option 5) Cat Videos So Cute Your Spine Slides Out
my spine!

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Freehold DM wrote:I'm pretty sure Scint is right in that you haven't read the same book series we did. Your copy was edited and approved by an insurance company or something.Ragadolf wrote:We are going to disagree here for...reasons.In the Dresden Files series (Book 6 or 7? Somewhere in there, name of the book is DEAD BEAT)
(SPOILER ALERT-If you want to read this book and be surprised, Dont read the spoiler!)
** spoiler omitted **
Best. Scene. In. A. Novel. EVER.
:)
normally I would agree, but I was just making another low rent sex gag noone got but me.

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Vanykrye wrote:Oh...there ya go...INFINITE. That's not something that I've heard of happening in the Midwest US.Or anything smaller than a megacorporation. That kind of policy would cripple a small operation (well maybe not a mom and pop shop where everyone is related to the owner/operators, but still).
I am not sure at what size employees become fungible, but it is something north of 50 or so.
We made it work well in a department of 29. We assumed a 10% absence rate so everyone got a slightly-under-100% assignment (14 units instead of 15, with some people at 13 and expected to do committee work as well). Yet none of us were overwhelmed when we were asked to substitute for other people's classes.
The point is that the "infinite vacation" still requires manager approval, so the manager can make sure attendance stays over 80% or so.

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Tacticslion wrote:Freehold will research the H associated with this anime.Oh. My. Wooooooooorrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrd.
Ascendance of a Bookwyrm is just... it's just... I didn't know I wanted this anime. I mean, I thought I'd like it, but. But.
Hhhhhhhrrrrrrrrrrrrnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn. My heart, man.
I'm too overweight to for it to be played like a fiddle like that!
It's so much warmer and human than I expected.
Also is that... Holland... France... Japanese fantasy?
Whatever, it's amazing. I love it.
I have no idea if any of you will. That's fine. If you love it - good. If not, this is my thing for me. >Hugs this anime.<
Uuuujhhhhhhh
Nnnnnnot recommended.
The ages of the protagonists are... low. Very, very low.
There are adults who can consent within the series and, of course, characters (being fictional) can be set at any age, but basically the protagonist is (sort of) a very sick six year old with a poor family.
Sort of.
The parents probably work well as H, I guess. They’re super sweet.
The priests or merchants, maybe. Still - I’d be... cautious.

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Scintillae wrote:"Okay, our article today is about the coronav-"
"NOT AGAIN"
"Look, every option I had to pick from had something to do with the coronovirus. Deal with it."Option 1) Coronovirus
Option 2) Trump Administration Handling of Coronavirus
Option 3) Democratic Primary
Option 4) How the Democratic Candidates Would Handle Coronavirus
Option 5) Cat Videos So Cute Your Spine Slides Out
Primary wasn't an option - there's usually a few days' lag on the site I use so the staff can generate discussion questions. But basically, yeah.
Diamond Princess coronavirus quarantine
White House criticizes media reporting on coronavirus
Coronavirus impact on US farmers
Scholastic magazine featured article: Is the US ready for a pandemic?

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NobodysHome wrote:My absolute favorite/most loathsome example of sick leave is the school district.
"If your child exhibits any of the following symptoms, please keep them home for the day, as if they infect others it can significantly impact everyone's learning."
(Long list of items, including fevers over 99.0°F, vomiting, etc.)And yet if you hit 8 sick days for the school year, you get a threatening letter from the school board that they're going to report you to the truancy office and Child Protective Services for child neglect.
Uh... Taking care of your child is neglect? I thought that Australia is the place where everything is upside down...
Here the primary difference is (or at least was in my times) presence of formal note from the MD. The parent could excuse the kid a few times on minor issues, though longer absences required doctor's confirmation.
As long as the kid was able to catch up with the material (which might include necessity necessity for extra tests), excused absences were not a major problem. I think I missed a month once because of extended sickness. Not really sure, though, it was long ago... Those could have been multiple separate absences of two three weeks.
I believe it's mostly a case of a few people abused the system; therefore, suspicion reigns.
We absolutely have people here who legitimately miss a lot of days due to being sick. And we also have kids who brag about being able to get their parents to call them out "sick" so they can skip without getting marked unexcused. Far more of the latter than the former, sad to say, which makes the ones following the rules look bad by association.
I don't much care for how it's handled, either. I get it's a necessary check to make sure there's nothing actually wrong at home, but...yeah, it does read as needlessly accusatory for the families who are doing what they should...and there's no accountability for the ones abusing the system.

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Freehold DM wrote:Tacticslion wrote:Freehold will research the H associated with this anime.Oh. My. Wooooooooorrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrd.
Ascendance of a Bookwyrm is just... it's just... I didn't know I wanted this anime. I mean, I thought I'd like it, but. But.
Hhhhhhhrrrrrrrrrrrrnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn. My heart, man.
I'm too overweight to for it to be played like a fiddle like that!
It's so much warmer and human than I expected.
Also is that... Holland... France... Japanese fantasy?
Whatever, it's amazing. I love it.
I have no idea if any of you will. That's fine. If you love it - good. If not, this is my thing for me. >Hugs this anime.<
Uuuujhhhhhhh
Nnnnnnot recommended.
The ages of the protagonists are... low. Very, very low.
There are adults who can consent within the series and, of course, characters (being fictional) can be set at any age, but basically the protagonist is (sort of) a very sick six year old with a poor family.
Sort of.
The parents probably work well as H, I guess. They’re super sweet.
The priests or merchants, maybe. Still - I’d be... cautious.
thanks for the heads up.

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Nylarthotep wrote:Vanykrye wrote:Oh...there ya go...INFINITE. That's not something that I've heard of happening in the Midwest US.Or anything smaller than a megacorporation. That kind of policy would cripple a small operation (well maybe not a mom and pop shop where everyone is related to the owner/operators, but still).
I am not sure at what size employees become fungible, but it is something north of 50 or so.
We made it work well in a department of 29. We assumed a 10% absence rate so everyone got a slightly-under-100% assignment (14 units instead of 15, with some people at 13 and expected to do committee work as well). Yet none of us were overwhelmed when we were asked to substitute for other people's classes.
The point is that the "infinite vacation" still requires manager approval, so the manager can make sure attendance stays over 80% or so.
Fair. I work in a law firm of about 15 attorneys not all of whom can do the same work and 20 support staff, again, not all of whom can substitute for one another, much less deal with the personalities of the different attorneys. We struggle when more than 2 support staff are out at a time. Not insurmountable, but less than ideal for anything longer than 3-4 business days (except around winter holidays when clients are also shutting down).

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Vanykrye wrote:normally I would agree, but I was just making another low rent sex gag noone got but me.Freehold DM wrote:I'm pretty sure Scint is right in that you haven't read the same book series we did. Your copy was edited and approved by an insurance company or something.Ragadolf wrote:We are going to disagree here for...reasons.In the Dresden Files series (Book 6 or 7? Somewhere in there, name of the book is DEAD BEAT)
(SPOILER ALERT-If you want to read this book and be surprised, Dont read the spoiler!)
** spoiler omitted **
Best. Scene. In. A. Novel. EVER.
:)
Ah. I see now. I was immediately thinking back to when you told us you weren't a big fan of that series.
(Which, no problem of course, just that your given reasons didn't jive with what Scint and I experienced.)

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They have the last season of American Horror Story on Hulu.
It's exactly as campy and over the top 80s as you'd expect a season of American Horror Story titled 1984 to be.
Although, I'm disappointed, I've gotten through an entire episode and I haven't seen Kathy Bates at all.
Is she all stabbed out.

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NobodysHome wrote:Fair. I work in a law firm of about 15 attorneys not all of whom can do the same work and 20 support staff, again, not all of whom can substitute for one another, much less deal with the personalities of the different attorneys. We struggle when more than 2 support staff are out at a time. Not insurmountable, but less than ideal for anything longer than 3-4 business days (except around winter holidays when clients are also shutting down).Nylarthotep wrote:Vanykrye wrote:Oh...there ya go...INFINITE. That's not something that I've heard of happening in the Midwest US.Or anything smaller than a megacorporation. That kind of policy would cripple a small operation (well maybe not a mom and pop shop where everyone is related to the owner/operators, but still).
I am not sure at what size employees become fungible, but it is something north of 50 or so.
We made it work well in a department of 29. We assumed a 10% absence rate so everyone got a slightly-under-100% assignment (14 units instead of 15, with some people at 13 and expected to do committee work as well). Yet none of us were overwhelmed when we were asked to substitute for other people's classes.
The point is that the "infinite vacation" still requires manager approval, so the manager can make sure attendance stays over 80% or so.
Yeah; there also has to be a level of trust between employee and management that rarely exists any more.
When Shiro's company implemented infinite vacation, they actually saw the absentee rate go down because employees trusted their management more. When my former company tried to implement a work-from-home strategy, it collapsed because some employees couldn't be trusted.
It all depends on the group and the situation, but if you have a management/employee paradigm that supports it, it proves to be more productive than having people come in sick and infect the whole department.

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When my former company tried to implement a work-from-home strategy, it collapsed because some employees couldn't be trusted.
Not to mention that many companies choose or are forced to go "all or nothing." Because they can't or won't just tell Worker A "you have to come into the office because you can't be trusted to get your work done at home", while allowing Worker B to work from home (because/even if Worker B has proven they can be trusted doing so), without fear/threat of being sued for the "unequal" treatment.

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NobodysHome wrote:Not to mention that many,companies choose or are forced to go "all or nothing." Because they can't or won't just tell Worker A "you have to come into the office because you,can't be trusted to get your work done at home" while allowing Worker B to work from home (because/even if Worker B has proven they can,be trusted doing so) without fear/threat of being sued.When my former company tried to implement a work-from-home strategy, it collapsed because some employees couldn't be trusted.
My wife's company is actually doing exactly that. The biggest stumbling block they've had for work from home is one of the executives has the "I can't get anything done when I work from home, so I don't see how anyone else can."
Aiymi called him on it. To his face. She's now working from home 3 days a week. She has meetings she needs to attend in person on the other 2.

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NobodysHome wrote:Not to mention that many companies choose or are forced to go "all or nothing." Because they can't or won't just tell Worker A "you have to come into the office because you can't be trusted to get your work done at home", while allowing Worker B to work from home (because/even if Worker B has proven they can be trusted doing so), without fear/threat of being sued for the "unequal" treatment.When my former company tried to implement a work-from-home strategy, it collapsed because some employees couldn't be trusted.
I think I posted several pages ago that this is one of my great pet peeves about corporate life.
Corporations are *SO* terrified of being sued over unequal treatment that every employee is treated as the lowest common denominator.
Which isn't fun, because you end up treating your employees like kleptomaniac layabouts...

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Unequal treatment has an unfortunately long and storied history of being associated with prejudiced behavior - specifically racist or sexist - and thus the “lowest common denominator” approach is in place as a guarantor of equality, regardless of any potentially discriminatory elements. Discrimination is unfortunately real, but the problem comes when that is recognized but no mechanic is in place to readily deal with the real problems without also inconveniencing everyone else. It’s a tough problem, and it would go away if people were able to trust people. Unfortunately we often feel we can only trust people to do the wrong thing - often because history has shown that many will, even if it’s not in the best interest for everyone, including themselves, because they can’t see those benefits, only the fact that they csn’t act as they choose.

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On a total change of topic (can you tell I finished writing all my certification exam questions and now I'm just spending a day copy-and-pasting into the tool they finally opened for me?):
This is my players in a nutshell.
GM NobodysHome: You find an office with a desk, a lot of paperwork on the desk, and two safes.
Helden: Do the keys fit the safes?
GMNH: Yes.
Helden: I open the safes.
GMNH: You find a large amount of cash and a bunch of magic items.
Helden: Oooh! (loot loot loot)
Neirida: Hey! You can't just loot that! That's probably this company's payroll, and we don't have any evidence that they've done anything wrong yet!
Blackwarm: Neirida is right. Taking that would just be stealing. We've been through most of this place already and it seems like a legitimate business. We'll come back and get it if we find out they're doing anything wrong.
Helden: (sighs) OK. You're right. (puts loot back and re-locks safe)
And yes, after exploring the rest of the location they learned that they were in a legitimate business whose employees had been Charmed to overlook certain... irregularities, so they decided that they were right in not stealing the company blind.
And this is why AP authors have to write for all player types, and put loot in "obviously lootable" situations. (My Shattered Star players were gasping at the "evil tribe's" ridiculous wealth totaling thousands, if not tens of thousands, of gold pieces, but considering they were the *only* auto-kill "all players will do this" encounter, it was the correct move by the author.)

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Freehold DM wrote:Vanykrye wrote:normally I would agree, but I was just making another low rent sex gag noone got but me.Freehold DM wrote:I'm pretty sure Scint is right in that you haven't read the same book series we did. Your copy was edited and approved by an insurance company or something.Ragadolf wrote:We are going to disagree here for...reasons.In the Dresden Files series (Book 6 or 7? Somewhere in there, name of the book is DEAD BEAT)
(SPOILER ALERT-If you want to read this book and be surprised, Dont read the spoiler!)
** spoiler omitted **
Best. Scene. In. A. Novel. EVER.
:)Ah. I see now. I was immediately thinking back to when you told us you weren't a big fan of that series.
(Which, no problem of course, just that your given reasons didn't jive with what Scint and I experienced.)
I have met the author and have his autograph, I simply much prefer the earlier books to the later ones, which get a bit...much.
Side Jobs was kinda good.

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On a total change of topic (can you tell I finished writing all my certification exam questions and now I'm just spending a day copy-and-pasting into the tool they finally opened for me?):
This is my players in a nutshell.
GM NobodysHome: You find an office with a desk, a lot of paperwork on the desk, and two safes.
Helden: Do the keys fit the safes?
GMNH: Yes.
Helden: I open the safes.
GMNH: You find a large amount of cash and a bunch of magic items.
Helden: Oooh! (loot loot loot)
Neirida: Hey! You can't just loot that! That's probably this company's payroll, and we don't have any evidence that they've done anything wrong yet!
Blackwarm: Neirida is right. Taking that would just be stealing. We've been through most of this place already and it seems like a legitimate business. We'll come back and get it if we find out they're doing anything wrong.
Helden: (sighs) OK. You're right. (puts loot back and re-locks safe)
Stealing is wrong.
keeps enough gold to pay for lunch, gas and tolls

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NobodysHome wrote:Not to mention that many companies choose or are forced to go "all or nothing." Because they can't or won't just tell Worker A "you have to come into the office because you can't be trusted to get your work done at home", while allowing Worker B to work from home (because/even if Worker B has proven they can be trusted doing so), without fear/threat of being sued for the "unequal" treatment.When my former company tried to implement a work-from-home strategy, it collapsed because some employees couldn't be trusted.
Unequal treatment is provable when HR shows up. That Worker B deserves to work from home because they are somehow better than Worker A is not, especially if their positions/titles are the same.

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NobodysHome wrote:On a total change of topic (can you tell I finished writing all my certification exam questions and now I'm just spending a day copy-and-pasting into the tool they finally opened for me?):
This is my players in a nutshell.
GM NobodysHome: You find an office with a desk, a lot of paperwork on the desk, and two safes.
Helden: Do the keys fit the safes?
GMNH: Yes.
Helden: I open the safes.
GMNH: You find a large amount of cash and a bunch of magic items.
Helden: Oooh! (loot loot loot)
Neirida: Hey! You can't just loot that! That's probably this company's payroll, and we don't have any evidence that they've done anything wrong yet!
Blackwarm: Neirida is right. Taking that would just be stealing. We've been through most of this place already and it seems like a legitimate business. We'll come back and get it if we find out they're doing anything wrong.
Helden: (sighs) OK. You're right. (puts loot back and re-locks safe)Stealing is wrong.
keeps enough gold to pay for lunch, gas and tolls
"Stealing from each other is wrong, the rest of the world is our mark!" - Crookshanks, after making her first rogue.

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Freehold DM wrote:"Stealing from each other is wrong, the rest of the world is our mark!" - Crookshanks, after making her first rogue.NobodysHome wrote:On a total change of topic (can you tell I finished writing all my certification exam questions and now I'm just spending a day copy-and-pasting into the tool they finally opened for me?):
This is my players in a nutshell.
GM NobodysHome: You find an office with a desk, a lot of paperwork on the desk, and two safes.
Helden: Do the keys fit the safes?
GMNH: Yes.
Helden: I open the safes.
GMNH: You find a large amount of cash and a bunch of magic items.
Helden: Oooh! (loot loot loot)
Neirida: Hey! You can't just loot that! That's probably this company's payroll, and we don't have any evidence that they've done anything wrong yet!
Blackwarm: Neirida is right. Taking that would just be stealing. We've been through most of this place already and it seems like a legitimate business. We'll come back and get it if we find out they're doing anything wrong.
Helden: (sighs) OK. You're right. (puts loot back and re-locks safe)Stealing is wrong.
keeps enough gold to pay for lunch, gas and tolls
I need to get that girl an extra crossbow or something. Proud freehold is proud.