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Are the farmers for sale, or can you only rent them?Weekend will be awesome, I'm going to the farmers market!
I'd love to see what fresh produce they have for sale. Though I suspect the vegetables may be more expensive then buying it at the supermarket.
They are people so they aren't for sale.
*sighs and hides under a towel*
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Writing a campaign where all the PCs are underwater dwelling races and the whole adventure takes place in the sea is on the to-do list.
Do you have Cerulean Seas?
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...they'd better get extradimensional storage or their spellbooks get ruined and their potions and oils don't function under water...
What's interesting to me is that as far as I know, there's nothing about any of that in RAW, and it's just been GMs winging it with house rules to make players HATE underwater adventures.
EDIT: OK. This is a cute solution.
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Also: Hermione is suddenly ridiculously prone to nightmares. So it can't be too evil/scary.The kids have started asking me when I'm going to run the undersea campaign for them.
I'm making excuses because I don't actually know of any undersea AP's or modules. Do any of you know of one offhand? Doesn't have to be Pathfinder, could be old D&D and I could modify it.
Oh, c'mon; you've GOT to be kidding me!
Ping Shiro.
If he can't give you at least half a dozen different Call of Cthulu campaigns you could adapt, I'd be disappointed in him.
Ah, nothing from Shiro, then...
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Ah, nothing from Shiro, then...Also: Hermione is suddenly ridiculously prone to nightmares. So it can't be too evil/scary.The kids have started asking me when I'm going to run the undersea campaign for them.
I'm making excuses because I don't actually know of any undersea AP's or modules. Do any of you know of one offhand? Doesn't have to be Pathfinder, could be old D&D and I could modify it.
Oh, c'mon; you've GOT to be kidding me!
Ping Shiro.
If he can't give you at least half a dozen different Call of Cthulu campaigns you could adapt, I'd be disappointed in him.
Maybe adapt stuff from The Little Mermaid? They need to steal something from the Sea Witch.
The kids have started asking me when I'm going to run the undersea campaign for them.
I'm making excuses because I don't actually know of any undersea AP's or modules. Do any of you know of one offhand? Doesn't have to be Pathfinder, could be old D&D and I could modify it.
Ruins of Azlant.
EDIT: OK. This is a cute solution.
My first thought was Nick Cage in a swimming pool.
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Writing a campaign where all the PCs are underwater dwelling races and the whole adventure takes place in the sea is on the to-do list.Do you have Cerulean Seas?
I do, and Waves of Thought and Indigo Ice.
Maybe adapt stuff from The Little Mermaid? They need to steal something from the Sea Witch.Ah, nothing from Shiro, then...Also: Hermione is suddenly ridiculously prone to nightmares. So it can't be too evil/scary.The kids have started asking me when I'm going to run the undersea campaign for them.
I'm making excuses because I don't actually know of any undersea AP's or modules. Do any of you know of one offhand? Doesn't have to be Pathfinder, could be old D&D and I could modify it.
Oh, c'mon; you've GOT to be kidding me!
Ping Shiro.
If he can't give you at least half a dozen different Call of Cthulu campaigns you could adapt, I'd be disappointed in him.
LE Cecaelia Sorcerer with a transmutation focus. She seems to really like baleful polymorph, disintegrate, enlarge person, and mages transformation.
Today was not a good day.
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...they'd better get extradimensional storage or their spellbooks get ruined and their potions and oils don't function under water...What's interesting to me is that as far as I know, there's nothing about any of that in RAW, and it's just been GMs winging it with house rules to make players HATE underwater adventures.
EDIT: OK. This is a cute solution.
Sorry, ARG states no potions underwater.
Then there's this when spellbooks get wet, so I am not making things up.
Not to mention all those swim checks or you sink down instead of going the direction you want to go. I'm sure your kids didn't think of the rules involved.
To me, coconut milk is only good if you've just opened the coconut yourself and drink it directly from said coconut.
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Sorry, ARG states no potions underwater.
"You can use a potion sponge underwater" =/= "You can't use a potion underwater".
Sorry, ARG states no potions underwater."You can use a potion sponge underwater" =/= "You can't use a potion underwater".
Actually it does specify that UNLIKE a potion from a vial, you can use a potion sponge underwater, which means that you cannot use a regular potion underwater. I do remember older games using goodberry underwater for just that reason, but that is another edition of another game.
To me, coconut milk is only good if you've just opened the coconut yourself and drink it directly from said coconut.
That's the water, not the milk. The milk has to be squeezed from it. Believe me, I got teased enough for being a wimpy/spoiled American as a kid to know.
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Sorry, ARG states no potions underwater.
So, I'm not going to start a rules argument on FaWtL, but, "Hey, developer! Create 10 new items for our next book!"
"Oops! I accidentally created a rule that didn't exist before when I created this item!""Oh, that's OK! We'll roll with it!"
isn't my idea of good rules development. And we ban ARG, so I like the post in the thread, "If you don't use ARG, then you can drink potions underwater."
Then there's this when spellbooks get wet, so I am not making things up.
And that's just an argument, not a ruling. We had a LOOOONG discussion on this over multiple threads, where people pointed out the longevity of vellum scrolls, even when submerged in seawater for extended periods. Adding to that the sheer cost of the ink, considering it non-waterproof in any way, shape, or form seems like a stretch.
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They were wanting to be Aquatic Elves.
Both d20pfsrd and WotC have this as a racial variant, and both specifically state "can breathe both air and water". d20pfsrd talks about magic users and spellbooks, but does not explain how this is managed. Since even muggles like me are capable of attaching a pencil to a plastic slate with a length or surgical tubing and using it to write things down, I would assume that a magical race that makes its home in the water could figure out something slightly more elegant.
Instead of potions, my personal workaround would be the "here, eat this" system: basically, if it's a potion they would reasonably be able to use in a standard game, there's a kelp or seagrass or seasnail they can eat to produce the same effect. The more advanced the spell, the harder to find.
Gotta side with NH on this one. Definitely a case of "oh we accidentally created an item that implies a rule that wasn't there before, let's just retroactively say that was always the case".
Going to not only ignore that in my own games, but when I do write and publish an underwater campaign, going to make sure I specifically note that that "rule" is probably best ignored.
That said, having "potions" for underwater dwellers be some kind of edibles instead is a perfect solution I wholeheartedly support. I don't imagine it makes much sense to have liquid consumables in an underwater environment.
So according to an email I just got, Paizo's big opener for their second edition is going to be .... Rereleasing Kingmaker, in celebration of the KM AP's 10th anniversary.
And in addition teaming up with Legendary Games to release some stuff for PF1 and 5e D&D as well, also Kingmaker themed.
Yay?
Admittedly I won't say no to more fey and more bestiary monsters in general, and I can see this as trying to leapfrog off the success of the Kingmaker CRPG.
It just seems a bit of an odd marketing choice to me, but what do I know about business?
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Actually it does specify that UNLIKE a potion from a vial, you can use a potion sponge underwater, which means that you cannot use a regular potion underwater.Sorry, ARG states no potions underwater."You can use a potion sponge underwater" =/= "You can't use a potion underwater".
No, it implies a rule that does not exist.
I was going more for "Meh" myself, I already have Kingmaker.
I dunno, has anyone tried drinking a soda underwater, not seeing a lot of success down that road.
An awful lot of CPR though.
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They were wanting to be Aquatic Elves.
Both d20pfsrd and WotC have this as a racial variant, and both specifically state "can breathe both air and water". d20pfsrd talks about magic users and spellbooks, but does not explain how this is managed. Since even muggles like me are capable of attaching a pencil to a plastic slate with a length or surgical tubing and using it to write things down, I would assume that a magical race that makes its home in the water could figure out something slightly more elegant.
Instead of potions, my personal workaround would be the "here, eat this" system: basically, if it's a potion they would reasonably be able to use in a standard game, there's a kelp or seagrass or seasnail they can eat to produce the same effect. The more advanced the spell, the harder to find.
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The one time I played an aquatic character, I had her spellbook be a bunch of seashells on a string, with each shell engraved with a spell on the ground that engraving isn’t water soluble. And she had sticks of engraved driftwood for scrolls. Never really got around to figuring out potions though, and I like your ideas for that. :)
I don't have a hardcover Kingmaker. I went in.
I'll wait for it to be released to the general public, I don't crowdfund things.
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I dunno, has anyone tried drinking a soda underwater, not seeing a lot of success down that road.Yes.
I mentioned Nick Cage in a swimming pool before, but for those missing the reference, the movie was Leaving Las Vegas.
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Sorry, ARG states no potions underwater.So, I'm not going to start a rules argument on FaWtL, but, "Hey, developer! Create 10 new items for our next book!"
"Oops! I accidentally created a rule that didn't exist before when I created this item!"
"Oh, that's OK! We'll roll with it!"
isn't my idea of good rules development. And we ban ARG, so I like the post in the thread, "If you don't use ARG, then you can drink potions underwater."** spoiler omitted **
As I said I mostly don't care about what developers are thinking off when they make rulings, I just follow whatever that comes out. And underwater stuff tends to just add a lot of rules bloat, though if you can naturally breathe in water and have a swim speed, it streamlines a lot of things.
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*peeks in, scans room*
Greetings, strangers!!
Hello, Syrus!
Today was not a good day.
You had to use your AK? (Air-dried Kabanossi)
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The kids have started asking me when I'm going to run the undersea campaign for them.
I'm making excuses because I don't actually know of any undersea AP's or modules. Do any of you know of one offhand? Doesn't have to be Pathfinder, could be old D&D and I could modify it.
Ruins of azlant has a loooooooot of underwater stuff
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The one time I played an aquatic character, I had her spellbook be a bunch of seashells on a string, with each shell engraved with a spell on the ground that engraving isn’t water soluble. And she had sticks of engraved driftwood for scrolls. Never really got around to figuring out potions though, and I like your ideas for that. :)They were wanting to be Aquatic Elves.
Both d20pfsrd and WotC have this as a racial variant, and both specifically state "can breathe both air and water". d20pfsrd talks about magic users and spellbooks, but does not explain how this is managed. Since even muggles like me are capable of attaching a pencil to a plastic slate with a length or surgical tubing and using it to write things down, I would assume that a magical race that makes its home in the water could figure out something slightly more elegant.
Instead of potions, my personal workaround would be the "here, eat this" system: basically, if it's a potion they would reasonably be able to use in a standard game, there's a kelp or seagrass or seasnail they can eat to produce the same effect. The more advanced the spell, the harder to find.
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Instead of alchemist brewing potions, you could have alchemist/druids lovingly grow magical kelp. The leaves could be consumed to impart a healing spell. The longer the leaves grow, the higher the healing spell. A cure light wounds could be a young plant. A heal would be a great old plant.
Also, they could change solubles. We put everything in water. But they could brew a potion in fat. Whale fat, fish fat, seal blubber, ect. Instead of drinking the potion, they could scoop it out of a container and eat it.
Gotta side with NH on this one. Definitely a case of "oh we accidentally created an item that implies a rule that wasn't there before, let's just retroactively say that was always the case".
Going to not only ignore that in my own games, but when I do write and publish an underwater campaign, going to make sure I specifically note that that "rule" is probably best ignored.
That said, having "potions" for underwater dwellers be some kind of edibles instead is a perfect solution I wholeheartedly support. I don't imagine it makes much sense to have liquid consumables in an underwater environment.
Liquid with higher density and viscosity than regular water stored in a soft bag-like skin that is squeezed into the consumer mouth via a narrow tube. Not all liquids have consistency of water, after all.
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I found out they're making a fourth season of Fargo! And Chris Rock is going to be one of the leads!!
Very exciting stuff.
I don't have a hardcover Kingmaker. I went in.
saving up $$$ for this one.
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They were wanting to be Aquatic Elves.
Both d20pfsrd and WotC have this as a racial variant, and both specifically state "can breathe both air and water". d20pfsrd talks about magic users and spellbooks, but does not explain how this is managed. Since even muggles like me are capable of attaching a pencil to a plastic slate with a length or surgical tubing and using it to write things down, I would assume that a magical race that makes its home in the water could figure out something slightly more elegant.
Instead of potions, my personal workaround would be the "here, eat this" system: basically, if it's a potion they would reasonably be able to use in a standard game, there's a kelp or seagrass or seasnail they can eat to produce the same effect. The more advanced the spell, the harder to find.
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...you have been waiting for a way to introduce that spoiler into conversation, haven't you?
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So according to an email I just got, Paizo's big opener for their second edition is going to be .... Rereleasing Kingmaker, in celebration of the KM AP's 10th anniversary.
And in addition teaming up with Legendary Games to release some stuff for PF1 and 5e D&D as well, also Kingmaker themed.
Yay?
Admittedly I won't say no to more fey and more bestiary monsters in general, and I can see this as trying to leapfrog off the success of the Kingmaker CRPG.
It just seems a bit of an odd marketing choice to me, but what do I know about business?
Well, we better both learn something about business pretty soon if we're doing this writing our own adventures to publish thing.
Heh fair point
Liquid with higher density and viscosity than regular water stored in a soft bag-like skin that is squeezed into the consumer mouth via a narrow tube. Not all liquids have consistency of water, after all.Gotta side with NH on this one. Definitely a case of "oh we accidentally created an item that implies a rule that wasn't there before, let's just retroactively say that was always the case".
Going to not only ignore that in my own games, but when I do write and publish an underwater campaign, going to make sure I specifically note that that "rule" is probably best ignored.
That said, having "potions" for underwater dwellers be some kind of edibles instead is a perfect solution I wholeheartedly support. I don't imagine it makes much sense to have liquid consumables in an underwater environment.
Also fair point. Didn't think of gel potions before.
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I'm totally making gelatin mix potions. You cannot stop me from calling any cure spells used in this way Holy Jello.