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@Orthos

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Orthos wrote:
As such, since every single other crime - from jaywalking to genocide - can be forgiven through stalwart belief and a desire to change one's ways, the most important factor in the faith by definition must be belief itself.

This all makes sense; the thing I find hard to believe is that this same logic apparently doesn't translate into an equal emphasis on belief in other religions. Like take Hinduism for example.

The problem is Samsara, the endless cycle of reincarnation and its unsatisfactory-ness. (That is literally the adjective Prothero uses.)

The solution is Moksha, release from Samsara. Some Hindus believe Moksha is the physical home of a god, while others believe it is personal union with a god; in any case, a god is involved.

The means of achieving Moksha is one of three yogi traditions.

So in order to achieve Moksha, you have to believe in this whole host of myths; otherwise why engage with any of it? Why does Hinduism emphasize ritual and spiritual experience over belief? Maybe I'm not understanding; or maybe it's one of those cultural things, where one religion emphasizes this over that for historical reasons.

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*Passes Tequila Sunrise a towel*

Apparently philosophical discussions tend to make participants nekkid. Are you trying to do the Archimedes thing?

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lynora wrote:

Made banana walnut pancakes for dinner... so good. And I have lots of leftovers too. I love breakfast for dinner. :)

The mess it makes of the kitchen, though.... that I don’t love as much :P

*High paws*

Like to cook and bake, don't like cleaning up. Meh yesterday I seemed to have been washing dishes like forever, for breakfast, lunch and dinner ><

Wanted to go swimming but only managed to squeeze a Billy Blanks Tae Bo workout at night.


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Tequila Sunrise wrote:

@Orthos

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I will admit up front that I know all of jack and squat about religion outside of Christianity, and a fairly limited scope thereof. But I can certainly see an argument for religion as a whole being based off belief over action.

Does Hinduism take actions and behaviors into account when determining fate/afterlife/reincarnation/etc.? If so, is that balanced against the need to believe - IE, do Hindus believe that Non-Hindus can still reach a satisfactory final fate even without believing? Or do they, like Christians (and Abrahamic faiths in general), have as a founding part of their philosophy that anyone who is not part of the faith - anyone who does not believe as they do - automatically fails the most basic-level prerequisite for a successful spirituality?

If the former, that may be the difference the author is meaning - Abrahamic faiths, more so Christianity and Islam than Judaism admittedly, preach very clearly and very strongly that anyone who is not a member of their system of belief (and, in some cases, their specific interpretation thereof, which inevitably leads into the massive quagmire that is denominations) is by default doomed to a dire fate and an unpleasant afterlife (or some variant thereof depending on the specific belief set). The need to believe in the faith and the basic tenets of the religion is the starting point, beyond which all else is simply impossible if the belief isn't present.

Not all faiths have this as part of their dogma - I know there are some religions that do not teach that you have to be a part of said religion to receive salvation, or escape doom, or break the cycle of existence, or whatever else said religion defines as the reward for a "successful" mortal life; that anyone who follows the guide for proper living, or is a "good person", or whatever else is expected/required even without the faith itself to guide them will still receive the rewards promised. I'm not sure where Hinduism falls on that scale, or even if there's an answer that spans all of Hinduism or if it's going to vary from (for lack of knowledge of a more accurate term) denomination to denomination.


Why do scuba divers roll backwards off the side of the boat? If they rolled forwards, they would land in the boat.


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My son has reached the age where he is becoming curious about the human body. I guess I'll have to find a better hiding place for it.


I told my son I was named after Stephen Hawking. He said "But Dad, your name is gran rey!" I said "I know. But I'm younger than him, so I was named AFTER Stephen Hawking."


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Why is it called the Dark Age? Because of all the knights.


You know how the Canary Islands is a misnomer, since there are no canaries there? It's the same with the Virgin Islands. There are no canaries there either.


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I found out about an origami porn channel. Unfortunately, it's paper view.


A German walks into a bar and orders a martini. "Dry?" asks the bartender. "Nein," replied the German. "Just the one."


A lost dog strays into the jungle one day. From a distance, a lion sees this and thinks to himself, "Hmmm, this guy looks edible, I've never seen his kind before." So the lion starts running towards the dog with menace but the dog notices this and starts to panic. As he's about to run he sees some bones on the ground next to him, gets an idea and says loudly, "Mmm... That was some good lion meat!" The lion screeches to a halt and says, "Woah! This guy seems tougher then he looks, I better leave while I can" and then runs away. Over in a tree, is a monkey who sees everything and realizes the he can benefit from this situation by telling the lion what happened and getting something in return. So the monkey finds the lion and tells him what really happened. The lion says to the monkey angrily, "Get on my back, we'll get him together". So the monkey climbs on the lion's back and they start rushing back to the dog. The dog sees them, realizes what has happened and starts to panic even more. But then he gets another idea and shouts, "Where is that monkey!?! I told him to bring me another lion an hour ago!"


A sheep, a drum, and a snake fall off a cliff. Baa dum hisss.


What's green and says "I'm a frog"? A talking frog.


My friend's dog died, so I got her an identical one. She was livid. She screamed at me "What the hell am I gonna do with TWO DEAD DOGS!!!"

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OK the oven repair man tried to replace the hinge and said that the door needed to be replaced as well, so we're getting a new oven of the same model instead tomorrow. I paid my mom the shortfall.


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Good morning, everyone.

Welcome back, Lynora!

Scarab Sages

Pffff, headache since yesterday. It luckily has lessened a bit, but its still annoying.

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gran rey de los mono wrote:
You know how the Canary Islands is a misnomer, since there are no canaries there? It's the same with the Virgin Islands. There are no canaries there either.

You mean no virgins there.

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Woran wrote:
Pffff, headache since yesterday. It luckily has lessened a bit, but its still annoying.

Figured out what caused it? Like maybe dehydration, pollen allergies?

Anyway hope you feel better soon!

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Day one of Mort's veggie ration turned out quite well. Takes 2 min to heat up and 25 min to scarf down everything(tau kwa, vegs, and chickpeas). And it's more tasty then eating salads. (Especially without dressing, since I don't care for most salad dressing).


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Mother's Day is approaching, and I think this year we should all show our appreciation to all the teachers who have been accidentally called "Mom" by a student.


Just a Mort wrote:
gran rey de los mono wrote:
You know how the Canary Islands is a misnomer, since there are no canaries there? It's the same with the Virgin Islands. There are no canaries there either.
You mean no virgins there.

Nope, see you would expect that. By saying no canaries I twist the expectation and thus the joke is crafted.

Scarab Sages

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Woran wrote:
Pffff, headache since yesterday. It luckily has lessened a bit, but its still annoying.

Figured out what caused it? Like maybe dehydration, pollen allergies?

Anyway hope you feel better soon!

Its behind the eyes (started behind the right, then slowly went to the left eye). So most likely tension. And probably the dry air didnt help, as the weather got pretty cold this weekend, so I put on the heater.


Speaking of veggies, I'm having a good-sized salad for lunch later today.


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I am cooking my lunch today to take to work for the first time in a while.


Not enough time in the morning for me to cook something, so I usually get something from CoGo's on the way to the garage.

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I do batch cooking these days. Throw 4 days worth of veggies in the pot on a weekend and then stuff it in boxes, then microwave. Sorry, I'm more of a cooked veggie person. That is, if your work place has a microwave.

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Woran wrote:
Just a Mort wrote:
Woran wrote:
Pffff, headache since yesterday. It luckily has lessened a bit, but its still annoying.

Figured out what caused it? Like maybe dehydration, pollen allergies?

Anyway hope you feel better soon!

Its behind the eyes (started behind the right, then slowly went to the left eye). So most likely tension. And probably the dry air didnt help, as the weather got pretty cold this weekend, so I put on the heater.

Try a humidifier? Does that help? How about rubbing some eculyptus/peppermint oil on the achy areas?


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I've got the "not enough sleep" version of a hangover this morning. Aiymi and I went to a concert on the north side of Chicago last night. Didn't get home until after midnight, and then I didn't get to sleep until about 1:15 this morning.

The concert was great (Montreal Guitar Trio and California Guitar Trio). The feeling this morning, not so much.


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Welcome back, Lynora!

Looooong weekend, and a full day of testing ahead, so see y'all laters!


Just a Mort wrote:
I do batch cooking these days. Throw 4 days worth of veggies in the pot on a weekend and then stuff it in boxes, then microwave. Sorry, I'm more of a cooked veggie person. That is, if your work place has a microwave.

There's a microwave, but CoGo's doesn't have much in the way of dresh vegetables. There's a 24-hour supermarket along the way, but I'd be late if I stopped there.


I need to get my hands on some dumplings at the Asian market.


I pack a cold lunch, usually a ham and cheese sandwich and chips, with water for drinking.


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captain yesterday wrote:
I pack a cold lunch, usually a ham and cheese sandwich and chips, with water for drinking.

I made brown rice with peas and carrots cooked in, some leftover curry chicken with bagged Japanese curry with veggies and potatoes mixed in, 2 hard boiled eggs, 3 apples and a hydration bladder and my thermos with green tea.

Ready for the day.


The Illinois River is about 10 feet (effectively 3 meters) over flood stage. The river is only a couple blocks away from my office.


For the bicyclists.


Vanykrye wrote:
The Illinois River is about 10 feet (effectively 3 meters) over flood stage. The river is only a couple blocks away from my office.

Does your company have an evac plan?

Scarab Sages

Just a Mort wrote:
Woran wrote:
Just a Mort wrote:
Woran wrote:
Pffff, headache since yesterday. It luckily has lessened a bit, but its still annoying.

Figured out what caused it? Like maybe dehydration, pollen allergies?

Anyway hope you feel better soon!

Its behind the eyes (started behind the right, then slowly went to the left eye). So most likely tension. And probably the dry air didnt help, as the weather got pretty cold this weekend, so I put on the heater.
Try a humidifier? Does that help? How about rubbing some eculyptus/peppermint oil on the achy areas?

Its right behind my eye. I dont think my eye will like stuff rubbed in it ;)


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John Napier 698 wrote:
Vanykrye wrote:
The Illinois River is about 10 feet (effectively 3 meters) over flood stage. The river is only a couple blocks away from my office.
Does your company have an evac plan?

Yes, but it would never get enacted. See my previous complaints about the person running this office. I'm not kidding when I say she's argued with the Illinois National Guard about a mandatory evacuation and shutdown of the downtown area.


So, she'll make everyone work even if the building floods? I hope she's prepared for the consequences if someone gets hurt through her inaction.


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It's the Midwest, no one thinks of the consequences.


My condolences.


Vanykrye wrote:
For the bicyclists.

I am meh about that idea. While being doored is no fun, neither is the extra traffic from having a cordoned off lane. I love safety, but we all need to get where we are going.


Freehold DM wrote:
Vanykrye wrote:
For the bicyclists.
I am meh about that idea. While being doored is no fun, neither is the extra traffic from having a cordoned off lane. I love safety, but we all need to get where we are going.

Pittsburgh has similar bike lane barricades. Many have been run over by cars making their turns too sharply.


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John Napier 698 wrote:
So, she'll make everyone work even if the building floods? I hope she's prepared for the consequences if someone gets hurt through her inaction.

Long term thinking v short term profits. Short term profits wins nearly every time in America.


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I remembered to eat lunch!

For context, I got cut off of my primary pain med a couple months back due to opioid hysteria (it's a non-narcotic, I can't even take opioids because they make me puke, but it treats pain so...panic! *rolls eyes*) and turns out that I also have no appetite without it. The good is that this makes it kinda easier to manage my blood sugar in some ways because overeating is no longer an issue. The bad is that it makes it kinda harder to manage my blood sugar because I forget mealtimes. Oops. So anyhow, I forgot to eat lunch the last couple of days so I'm happy I remembered it today. :)


Vanykrye wrote:
The Illinois River is about 10 feet (effectively 3 meters) over flood stage. The river is only a couple blocks away from my office.

o.O Yikes!


John Napier 698 wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
Vanykrye wrote:
For the bicyclists.
I am meh about that idea. While being doored is no fun, neither is the extra traffic from having a cordoned off lane. I love safety, but we all need to get where we are going.
Pittsburgh has similar bike lane barricades. Many have been run over by cars making their turns too sharply.

right/left hooks are no joke.


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Sat down to type some stuff, but the cat has settled down on my papers and I can't read them through him. Typical cat. They will not abide productivity! ;P

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