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Why is TWF a prereq for Shield Slam? It don't see why a big burly, not so nimble brawler couldn't slam his shield into someone and knock him over.
Why is TWF a prereq for Shield Slam? It don't see why a big burly, not so nimble brawler couldn't slam his shield into someone and knock him over.
I suppose for the coordination needed to work your off hand as well as your main?
A burley fighter COULD do that using bullrush. He just gets knocked in the head when he tries it
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I think the assumption is that you´re doing Shield Slam as part of 2WF...
But even Paizo´s James Jacobs has clarified that you don´t NEED to make Shield Slam´s as off-hand attacks, but can make them as normal attacks (though that STILL hasn´t made it to FAQ/Errata). I saw mention that Paizo was considering removing 2WF from the Pre-Req for Shield Fighter Variants (since their schtick is they don´t need 2WF to mix shield+sword attacks during Full Attacks, e.g. using different iteratives), but really I agree with you that 2WF should just be Errata-removed from the Shield Slam pre-reqs PERIOD.
Wait... you're supposed to have TWF to use shields to bash effectively? Like, no joke? Cuz we have been doing this way wrong.
And we probably will continue to do so.
If the fighter wanted to TWF and use a shield as his off-hand weapon, I can see the need for it, but I can't fathom why a fighter couldn't use a Shield Slam instead of a regular attack.
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I just reread the bullrush maneuver.
You can move with the target if you wish but you must have the available movement to do so.
I think I might have been under the misunderstanding that the fighter attempting the bullrush maneuver has to "rush", as in move with his target. I guess for flavor, if you have a shield you can use bullrush and just say "I slam the enemy with my shield."
I mentioned this during the Beta playtest, and I got an emphatic response from Jason B. IIRC. He seemed to agree, and then I was very surprised to see nothing had changed in the final version.