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Alrighty. So, it has been discussed before that Enlarge Person CAN be cast on your Eidolon. Not questioning that one bit so please don't bring it up here :)
What I was wondering though is if you could buy a permanent Enlarge Person on your eidolon. Or, does the Enlarge Person have to come from the summoner, which leaves in a few minutes?
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"You first cast the desired spell and then follow it with the permanency spell."
I think the caster of the permanency spell has to cast enlarge which would mean it wouldn't work. However...
I would think a summoner could cast Enlarge Person on his eidolon then use the UMD skill to cast permanency from a scroll. I forget if casting from a scroll assumes the reader is the caster or it assumes the writer is the caster.
That's kind of a gray area though.
UMD should work fine. I don´t want to think of all the spells that wouldn´t work if the UMD´er didn´t count as ´You´ (the caster) within spell descriptions. Scrolls are supposed to work just like spell casting except as noted.
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"You first cast the desired spell and then follow it with the permanency spell."
I think the caster of the permanency spell has to cast enlarge which would mean it wouldn't work. However...
I would think a summoner could cast Enlarge Person on his eidolon then use the UMD skill to cast permanency from a scroll. I forget if casting from a scroll assumes the reader is the caster or it assumes the writer is the caster.
That's kind of a gray area though.
Well, I read through the scroll description...
To have any chance of activating a scroll spell, the scroll user must meet the following requirements.
* The spell must be of the correct type (arcane or divine). Arcane spellcasters (wizards, sorcerers, and bards) can only use scrolls containing arcane spells, and divine spellcasters (clerics, druids, paladins, and rangers) can only use scrolls containing divine spells. (The type of scroll a character creates is also determined by his class.)
* The user must have the spell on her class list.
* The user must have the requisite ability score.
So, I would have to take a level in Wizard or Sorcerer in order to cast the spell.. under that context, wouldn't I? Meaning, Permanency.
"You first cast the desired spell and then follow it with the permanency spell."
I think the caster of the permanency spell has to cast enlarge which would mean it wouldn't work. However...
I would think a summoner could cast Enlarge Person on his eidolon then use the UMD skill to cast permanency from a scroll. I forget if casting from a scroll assumes the reader is the caster or it assumes the writer is the caster.
That's kind of a gray area though.
Well, I read through the scroll description...
So, I would have to take a level in Wizard or Sorcerer in order to cast the spell.. under that context, wouldn't I? Meaning, Permanency.To have any chance of activating a scroll spell, the scroll user must meet the following requirements.
* The spell must be of the correct type (arcane or divine). Arcane spellcasters (wizards, sorcerers, and bards) can only use scrolls containing arcane spells, and divine spellcasters (clerics, druids, paladins, and rangers) can only use scrolls containing divine spells. (The type of scroll a character creates is also determined by his class.)
* The user must have the spell on her class list.
* The user must have the requisite ability score.
Emulate a Class Feature: Sometimes you need to use a class feature to activate a magic item. In this case, your effective level in the emulated class equals your Use Magic Device check result minus 20. This skill does not let you actually use the class feature of another class. It just lets you activate items as if you had that class feature. If the class whose feature you are emulating has an alignment requirement, you must meet it, either honestly or by emulating an appropriate alignment with a separate Use Magic Device check (see above).
UMD is your friend, it's even keyed off your casting stat.