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Okay, we know that Animal Companions get Multiattack at level 9.
Normal Multiattack rules are fine, My issue is with the secondary effect on the Animal Companion's Version: The iterative attack with One natural Weapon.
now lets take something like a Wolf, who only has a Bite attack, al lthe way up to 9th level, His Bite is [Dice+1 1/2 Str+Misc modifiers] because he only has One Natural attack.
Now come level 9, he now has a Bite at Full BAB, and a second attack with that Bite at -5 BAB, does he still only count as having one Natural Attack (for Strength and a Half), or does he now have Two (One primary bite, and a secondary bite) meaning he'd have a Primary Bite of [Dice+Str+Misc] and a secondary bite as [Dice+1/2Str+Misc]
or is it just two [Dice+1 1/2 str+Misc] (like iterative attacks with a two handed weapon)
thank you for your input.
IMHO, option number 2.
IMHO, option number 2.
so one attack at full strength and the other at half as if he was using a Priamry and a secondary?
so he'd go from on par with a two handed fighter, to a dual weilding fighter without two weapon fighting or double slice.
not quite what I'd be expecting from a level 9 ability.
It still have only one natural weapon, so it should be like a two-handed weapon with iterative attacks.
IMHO, option number 2.so one attack at full strength and the other at half as if he was using a Priamry and a secondary?
so he'd go from on par with a two handed fighter, to a dual weilding fighter without two weapon fighting or double slice.
not quite what I'd be expecting from a level 9 ability.
Sorry, I meant the one where it was akin making 2 attacks with a 2 handed sword.
Sorry, I meant the one where it was akin making 2 attacks with a 2 handed sword.IMHO, option number 2.so one attack at full strength and the other at half as if he was using a Priamry and a secondary?
so he'd go from on par with a two handed fighter, to a dual weilding fighter without two weapon fighting or double slice.
not quite what I'd be expecting from a level 9 ability.
oh okay, that's what I figured, but y'know, it doesn't say, and you DO technically now have two Natural attacks (one bite and a Bite at -5), so I figured I'd ask other Rules Forumers.
oh okay, that's what I figured, but y'know, it doesn't say, and you DO technically now have two Natural attacks (one bite and a Bite at -5), so I figured I'd ask other Rules Forumers.Sorry, I meant the one where it was akin making 2 attacks with a 2 handed sword.IMHO, option number 2.so one attack at full strength and the other at half as if he was using a Priamry and a secondary?
so he'd go from on par with a two handed fighter, to a dual weilding fighter without two weapon fighting or double slice.
not quite what I'd be expecting from a level 9 ability.
The number of natural attacks don't increase with BAB. For the rest of the wolf's life he will only have one bite attack no matter what his BAB is.
The number of natural attacks don't increase with BAB. For the rest of the wolf's life he will only have one bite attack no matter what his BAB is.oh okay, that's what I figured, but y'know, it doesn't say, and you DO technically now have two Natural attacks (one bite and a Bite at -5), so I figured I'd ask other Rules Forumers.Sorry, I meant the one where it was akin making 2 attacks with a 2 handed sword.IMHO, option number 2.so one attack at full strength and the other at half as if he was using a Priamry and a secondary?
so he'd go from on par with a two handed fighter, to a dual weilding fighter without two weapon fighting or double slice.
not quite what I'd be expecting from a level 9 ability.
We are talking about a wolf animal companion.
MultiattackAn animal companion gains Multiattack as a bonus feat if it has three or more natural attacks and does not already have that feat. If it does not have the requisite three or more natural attacks, the animal companion instead gains a second attack with its primary natural weapon, albeit at a –5 penalty.
The number of natural attacks don't increase with BAB. For the rest of the wolf's life he will only have one bite attack no matter what his BAB is.oh okay, that's what I figured, but y'know, it doesn't say, and you DO technically now have two Natural attacks (one bite and a Bite at -5), so I figured I'd ask other Rules Forumers.Sorry, I meant the one where it was akin making 2 attacks with a 2 handed sword.IMHO, option number 2.so one attack at full strength and the other at half as if he was using a Priamry and a secondary?
so he'd go from on par with a two handed fighter, to a dual weilding fighter without two weapon fighting or double slice.
not quite what I'd be expecting from a level 9 ability.
We are talking about a wolf animal companion.
MultiattackAn animal companion gains Multiattack as a bonus feat if it has three or more natural attacks and does not already have that feat. If it does not have the requisite three or more natural attacks, the animal companion instead gains a second attack with its primary natural weapon, albeit at a –5 penalty.
I did not see the part at the end. I stand corrected. I can't believe I never noticed that.