RPG Superstar 2010 Top 16
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Note, for the reference, that I'm posting this in 2011.
Next month, we here in eastern Iowa are having a local convention with a lot of PFS scenarios. A friend called me up and asked for help with her 4th Level character, because she wanted to make sure it was street legal for the convention.
We met, and I found out that (a) her character was still based on the 3.5 D&D rule-set, but (b) other GMs had been letting her play it, and (c) had even tweaked it a little (giving her an additional 12 hit points, using Spot for Perception, etc.) So, they had to know that it wasn't a legal character, even though they kept assuring her it was. She called me because she wasn't sure what the rules are -- she doesn't have ready Internet access -- but she was suspicious that things weren't on the up-and-up.
I wish I could say I was surprised.
So, we converted the character to a 4th level Pathfinder-legal character, using only the options available in the materials we can assume she can use: the core rulebook, the traits document, "Seekers in Secret" and the Guide to PFS OP.
What do I do about the recent scenarios she's played? Are we allowed to count them as legal play and legitimate experience? (If not, then the tables weren't of legal size.) How should we adjust her Faction Prestige total, since she has indeed received 2 Prestige points for some of the adventures?
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I wouldn't punish her by not making the scenario's "legal," as she didn't know that something was wrong. In my opinion it's the DM's job to point this out at the table, and at the very minimum let her know how she could proceed to fix the character (showing where the core rulebook is, lending her his book, etc.). Either way, her prestige should probably be the same, same exp, keep the skills and feats as close to the PFRPG equivalent as possible, but you're going to get more skills to place in newer areas. Obviously choosing things like Rogue Talents, Sorcerer Bloodlines, etc. Basically just make it legal, let her continue, and call her character having a very odd backstory from levels 1-3.
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RPG Superstar 2010 Top 16
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Use the conversion rules for the Scenarios she played that where prior to Pathfinder RPG and add the rest as if she was legal when she played after Pathfinder RPG.
That was our tentative decision. Since her scenario chronicles are dated, it was pretty straight-forward. But we wiped the slate for her gear and had her buy new equipment as appropriate for a 4th Level character.
Thanks for the input, folks.
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You're more likely to reform errant GM's by saving the confrontational approach for the second try rather than using it as the first step to problem resolution. GM's are what campaigns run on. Abuse as motivator never works.James is obviously right on the money here.
The more important question though, is has her other GM(s?) been informed of how wrong they are and has a kick in the junk been dispatched? :)
Sorry I left off the 'this is clearly a joke' disclaimer off of something that I thought was clearly a joke.
Venture-Captain Mark Garringer in no way endorses physical violence against GMs.
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What about against other Venture-Captains or 5 Star GMs? ;)
Venture-Captain Mark Garringer in no way endorses physical violence against GMs.
Yes, a Venture-Captain may junk punch another Venture-Captain. Sure I was flirting with his (Azmyth) girlfriend and I told JP that he is a wuss. Eric Brittan did throw my character (Goldfrapp) into the Absalom Bay once.
I'm sure I had fun. And she FB'd me first. I swear. And nobody had an illegal character.Back to the OP, even if some 'Creative Director' didn't say it was OK, I think it should be. The idea we're trying to further here is Paizo profits. With a correction to the most recent rule system, the person is more likely to enjoy their character and create new ones. As such, they'll likely need to buy a $50 Core Rulebook.
Of course, if you happen to have Jack as a member of your crew, he takes your 2nd printing book, claims it's only worth $10 worth of drinks at the bar because it's now outdated, then everybody loses.
Plus, you're a Superstar top 16. I mean if you can't get away with fixing a character, then really, I'm not sure junk mangling would even help.
Be Well.
Issak
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What about against other Venture-Captains or 5 Star GMs? ;)
Venture-Captain Mark Garringer in no way endorses physical violence against GMs.
Yes, a Venture-Captain may junk punch another Venture-Captain. Sure I was flirting with his (Azmyth) girlfriend and I told JP that he is a wuss. Eric Brittan did throw my character (Goldfrapp) into the Absalom Bay once.
I'm sure I had fun. And she FB'd me first. I swear. And nobody had an illegal character.Back to the OP, even if some 'Creative Director' didn't say it was OK, I think it should be. The idea we're trying to further here is Paizo profits. With a correction to the most recent rule system, the person is more likely to enjoy their character and create new ones. As such, they'll likely need to buy a $50 Core Rulebook.
Of course, if you happen to have Jack as a member of your crew, he takes your 2nd printing book, claims it's only worth $10 worth of drinks at the bar because it's now outdated, then everybody loses.Plus, you're a Superstar top 16. I mean if you can't get away with fixing a character, then really, I'm not sure junk mangling would even help.
Be Well.
Issak
I'm a firm believer that 'junk mangling' should be a banned phrase on these boards....*shudder*
