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Ok, question came up during my last session: Can the withdraw action be combined with pulling out a weapon or other easily accessible item i.e. a potion? We could find not find rules anywhere stating one way or the other. So I turn to your many, many intelligent eyes.
While anyones opinions are welcome. There is one answer I'm completely not looking for: DM Fiat. I know I can house rule stuff. Don't waste my time.
Finally, the answers that I'm 100% looking for are ones that can cite RAW with page numbers and/or direct quotes from RAW.
Thank you!
Ok, question came up during my last session: Can the withdraw action be combined with pulling out a weapon or other easily accessible item i.e. a potion? We could find not find rules anywhere stating one way or the other. So I turn to your many, many intelligent eyes.
While anyones opinions are welcome. There is one answer I'm completely not looking for: DM Fiat. I know I can house rule stuff. Don't waste my time.
Finally, the answers that I'm 100% looking for are ones that can cite RAW with page numbers and/or direct quotes from RAW.
Thank you!
There is no rule for it, but I would allow the weapon drawing since you can draw a weapon during a move action. I would not allow anything else being drawn since there is no precedent for it though.
The rules state that having a +1 BAB allows a weapon to be drawn as a free action as part of a regular move.
Withdraw is not a regular move.
As I understand it the answer is no.
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The RAW basis for why this doesn't work have been provided.
It was a fairly common houserule in 3.5 to allow drawing a weapon during a charge. The typical rationale that I heard on this was that charging was a form of movement; my opinion is that this stemmed from a misunderstanding of the rule about when you could draw while moving with a +1 BAB. Regardless,in PF, that became the rule that allowed drawing a weapon during a charge if moving a single move distance.
If chosing to implement a houserule to allow drawing a weapon or weaponlike object during a withdraw, I would suggest including a restriction of the withdrawal being limited to a single move distance. This provides a parallel to the existing rule for charging.
Ok, question came up during my last session: Can the withdraw action be combined with pulling out a weapon or other easily accessible item i.e. a potion? We could find not find rules anywhere stating one way or the other. So I turn to your many, many intelligent eyes.
While anyones opinions are welcome. There is one answer I'm completely not looking for: DM Fiat. I know I can house rule stuff. Don't waste my time.
Finally, the answers that I'm 100% looking for are ones that can cite RAW with page numbers and/or direct quotes from RAW.
Thank you!
RAW: Withdraw is a full round action. The only thing you can do in addition to a full round action is a swift action and any amount of free actions your Ref allows.
So any free action that your ref says is ok (this is not DM Fiat it is the exact limitation on free actions in RAW) and one swift action is ok to do with a Withdraw.
Withdrawing is NOT a regular move, which is a requirement I believe.
Withdrawing is NOT a regular move, which is a requirement I believe.
If your responding to quickdraw, it make drawing a weapon a free action and does not cite any need to move whatsoever.
As a free action you can of course quickdraw a weapon while using Withdraw, just like any other free or swift action.
The rules state that having a +1 BAB allows a weapon to be drawn as a free action as part of a regular move
Actually the rules state that drawing a weapon is a move action with the special note that if you have a +1 BAB or better you may do so and still take the movement. It is a special conditional allowance that in no way changes the action type.
Quickdraw, however, removes the limitations from drawing a weapon and replaces it with a free action and one can combine a free action with pretty much anything.
Quickdraw, however, removes the limitations from drawing a weapon and replaces it with a free action and one can combine a free action with pretty much anything.
I agree Quickdraw is an exception to the rule. How that feat works is well explained in the RAW.
But it is not my impression that ThornDJL7 was in doubt how Quickdraw works.