Hoping to have input for an item I designed.
The quickdraw quiver is similar to an ordinary quiver, except all the stitching is on the outside, and the inside is completely smooth, possibly oiled, with a slightly narrower opening at the top that flares out a little. It is designed to hold a single net, and allows you to use the quickdraw feat to smoothly draw the net as a free action when throwing.
from PFC
"A net must be folded to be thrown effectively. The first time you throw your net in a fight, you make a normal ranged touch attack roll. After the net is unfolded, you take a –4 penalty on attack rolls with it. It takes 2 rounds for a proficient user to fold a net and twice that long for a non-proficient one to do so."
The quiver stores the net folded properly for throwing. A proficient user requires 2 minutes to store a net properly (ever pack a parachute?). A non-proficient user requires 5 minutes and the net has a 50% chance of not opening when deployed. A loose net can be stuffed into the quiver as a full round action but can not be deployed after unless 1 minute is spent untangling it (3 for non-proficient users). This does not include the time needed to repack it into the quiver.
Wouldn't you just be able to draw the folded net as a free action anyway if you have Quick Draw?
I thought the folding rules really only came into play if you wanted to use the net a second time.
instead of a quiver i'd have a pouch. and some people dont want to burn a feat.
+1. i like it
and wouldn't the net be magical? easier to throw and pack + 1d6 electrisity damage...
Wouldn't you just be able to draw the folded net as a free action anyway if you have Quick Draw?
As a weapon you might be able to draw the net as part of a move action. But as an ammo type I don't see drawing the net as part of an attack normally.
With the quiver you could draw the net as fast as any other thrown ammo...
i.e. rogue as a full action, 1st attack sneak attacks with something thrown, now cover is blown, but 2nd attack (rapid shot, 2WF or BAB6+) produces net and entangles opponent.
I've gotten the impression stuff like darts or throwing axes you'd need quickdraw to throw at your full rate of fire, am I wrong there?
I thought the folding rules really only came into play if you wanted to use the net a second time.
the extra folding rules were to balance being able to have the net out instantly - it's a floppy, tangly thing that doesn't just slide into a quiver like an arrow or sheath like a dagger.
and wouldn't the net be magical? easier to throw and pack + 1d6 electrisity damage...
you could use the quiver with any net of the appropriate size. The quiver itself is a mundane item, but you are free to put whatever net you want into it.