So I had a crazy idea for a new class, using the Inquisitor as a base.
You lose the Domain, and you are only proficient with Light armor and simple weapons (not your deity's weapon, unless it happens to be simple).
You cast spells from the witch's spell list, up to 6th level just like the Inquisitor, and you can cast while wearing light armor.
Instead of Teamwork feats and Solo Tactics, you gain Sneak Attack at 3rd level and every three levels thereafter, maxing at 6d6 at 18th level.
Thoughts?
EDIT: the class is called the Heretic, hence the title.
Witch spell list is like Wizards. So No armor if you have that list.
The inquisitor has a very limited spell list all there own (not cleric), and they only get domain granted powers (not spells).
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I would love to dump the bard list... and give wizard spells to bards up to 6th level. But it will not happen, because the spell listed would make bards too powerful.
Same is true of inquisitor.
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Ok, you melee types can argue about the feats vs sneak attack stuff :D
Middle BAB
Middle spell progression (Witch spell list)
Judgment, Monster Lore, Stern Gaze, Cunning Initiative, Detect Alignment, Track, Bane . . .
Sneak attack at about 1/2 rogue
The witch's spell list is better than the inquisitors, and sneak attack is better than teamwork feats. You've given up a single domain power, which is worth about 1 feat.
Simple weapons aren't bad, and you can just pick a race that has good weapon familiarity to make up for that anyway.
Light rather than medium armor isn't much of a sacrifice, since Chain Shirt is only 2 points of AC worse than Breastplate for a strength based attacker, and is actually better than Breastplate for a dex based attacker.
You've created a too-powerful gish.
I understand the concerns, so how about dropping the spells to paladin/ranger progression, and mkae the sneak attack start at level 5 and go every 5th level, so 4d6 at 20?
The intent wasn't to make an OP gish, but more of a socially focused character that has a darker theme than the bard.
Then it would be comparable to the paladin, but less combat focused.
I understand the concerns, so how about dropping the spells to paladin/ranger progression, and mkae the sneak attack start at level 5 and go every 5th level, so 4d6 at 20?
The intent wasn't to make an OP gish, but more of a socially focused character that has a darker theme than the bard.Then it would be comparable to the paladin, but less combat focused.
That sounds a lot safer to me. I don't think the sneak attack was as bit a problem as the spells, so lowering those is a big deal. You'll want to change the magic to be based on charisma rather than wisdom.
Yeah, and I was thinking of making some of the class abilities based on Charisma instead of wisdom (Monster Lore ((has knowledge based on prior interactions)), Cunning Initiative, etc.) and making the alignment any nongood.
Witch spell list is like Wizards. So No armor if you have that list.
One of the class features would be the ability to cast spells in light armor. Given the (now) very limited number of spells per day the class gets, I dont think that would be too unbalanced, but I would love to hear more input.
Witch spell list is like Wizards. So No armor if you have that list.
Spell lists are never tied to the ability to cast in armour without penalty.
Spell lists are class features.
The ability to cast spells in armour are also class features (or, in the case of divine spells, a feature of the spells themselves).
So you could totally make a class that gets the witch spell list and the ability to cast in armour.
One of the class features would be the ability to cast spells in light armor. Given the (now) very limited number of spells per day the class gets, I dont think that would be too unbalanced, but I would love to hear more input.Witch spell list is like Wizards. So No armor if you have that list.
If your limiting yourself to 1-4th level Witch spells (wizard/sorcerer spell list), then i could see casting them in light armor. ((in essence 1 free feat)). That would not be overpowered, and a middle road between Bard vs Ranger.