Skill Rank Math Question

[chopswil]

I'm trying to works backwards to determine the ranks for a characters skills but I can't get it all to add up.

The Stat block is at the end and it is from AP 38 page 16.

Skill points: 25 = cleric5, so 5 * (2 + 1) + 5 favored class + 5 human bonus

Climb +6 = ranks 6 + -1 Str + -1 Armor Check + 2 +2 Athletic feat
Diplomacy +3 = rank 1 + Cha -1 + class skill 3
Heal +10 = rank 1 + Wis 4 + class skill 3 + Self-Sufficient 2
Knowledge (arcana) +5 = rank 1 + Int 1 + class skill 3
Knowledge (geography) +2 = rank 1 + Int 1
Knowledge (history) +5 = rank 1 + Int 1 + class skill 3
Knowledge (local) +2 = rank 1 + Int 1
Knowledge (nature) +2 = rank 1 + Int 1
Knowledge (religion) +5 = rank 1 + Int 1 + class skill 3
Linguistics +5 = rank 1 + Int 1 + class skill 3
Sense Motive +8 = rank 1 + Wis 4 + class skill 3
Survival +11 = rank 5 + Wis 4 + Self-Sufficient 2
Swim +9 = rank ? + Str -1 + Armor Check -1 + Athletic Athletic 2 + Skill focus 3

I've run out of Skill Points by Swim, I need 2 more
Can anyone see what I'm missing?
I've got 4 to use on Swim but I need 6 to get me to +9.

SB:
Nkechi the Tempest CR 4
XP 1,200
Male middle-aged human cleric of Gozreh 5
N Medium humanoid (human)
Init +2; Senses Perception +4
Defense
AC 14, touch 12, flat-footed 12 (+2 Dex, +2 shield)
hp 27 (5d8+5)
Fort +5, Ref +3, Will +8
Offense
Speed 30 ft.
Melee mwk trident +3 (1d8–1)
Ranged mwk trident +6 (1d8–1)
Special Attacks channel positive energy
2/day (DC 11, 3d6), wooden fist (+2, 7
rounds/day)
Domain Spell-Like Abilities (CL 5th;
concentration +9)
7/day—storm burst (1d6+2
nonlethal damage)
Spells Prepared (CL 5th; concentration +9)
3rd—call lightningD (DC 17), create food
and water, remove disease
2nd—augury, barkskinD, delay poison,
lesser restoration
1st—endure elements, magic stone, magic weapon,
obscuring mistD, sanctuary (DC 15)
0 (at will)—detect poison, light, purify food and
drink, stabilize
D Domain spell; Domains Plant, Weather
Statistics
Str 9, Dex 14, Con 12, Int 13, Wis 18, Cha 9
Base Atk +3; CMB +2; CMD 14
Feats Athletic, Eschew Materials, Self-Sufficient, Skill Focus
(Swim)
Skills Climb +6, Diplomacy +3, Heal +10, Knowledge (arcana) +5,
Knowledge (geography) +2, Knowledge (history) +5, Knowledge
(local) +2, Knowledge (nature) +2, Knowledge (religion) +5,
Linguistics +5, Sense Motive +8, Survival +11, Swim +9
Languages Azlanti, Common, Polyglot
Gear +1 light wooden shield, masterwork trident, pearl of power
(1st level), augury bones worth 25 gp, flint and steel, healer's
kit, waterskin, wooden holy symbol of Gozreh

[Sniggevert]

I don't think the armor check penalty gets added to the skills in the stat block. If you take climb and swim to 5 ranks you get +6 and +9 respectively before ACP.

Also, the max ranks at 5th level one can put into any skill is 5, so it reaffirms this a little bit.

Just my assumptions on this.

[chopswil]

Sniggevert wrote:

I don't think the armor check penalty gets added to the skills in the stat block. If you take climb and swim to 5 ranks you get +6 and +9 respectively before ACP.

Also, the max ranks at 5th level one can put into any skill is 5, so it reaffirms this a little bit.

Just my assumptions on this.

I can see where you are coming from but I thought Skills that are Str or Dex you apply Armor Check Penalties and the +1 light wooden shield is -1.

But then you're correct about the max rank = level too.

[Sniggevert]

Oh, you definitely use the ACP when using the STR or DEX skills. Actually, swimming takes double ACP penalties, but I just don't think they add those items into the stat blocks for NPC's. That way in case the GM has the NPC in other gear it's easier to deal with on the fly IMO.

[Gand]

Max ranks = level yes.

But a +1 light wooden shield has 0 ACP, since it's a masterwork shield.

[chopswil]

Gand wrote:

Max ranks = level yes.

But a +1 light wooden shield has 0 ACP, since it's a masterwork shield.

That's it!!

thank you all!!