Empower Spell + Intensify Spell + Scorching Ray


Rules Questions


Does empower spell affect the number of rays/missiles cast in the description of the spell?

Example 1:
Scorching Ray + Empower Spell @ CL 12

4 rays each doing 6D6 or is it 3 rays each doing 6D6?

Example 2:
Scorching Ray + Empower Spell + Intensify Spell @ CL 16

6 Rays each doing 6D6 or is it 4 rays each doing 6D6?


Empower makes the rays each do 6d6.

Intensify doesn't have an effect on Scorching Ray.

3 rays is the max unless you play with old things like Split Ray.


Sylvanite wrote:

Empower makes the rays each do 6d6.

Intensify doesn't have an effect on Scorching Ray.

3 rays is the max unless you play with old things like Split Ray.

Thanks!


so empowered, maximized scorching ray (say, 7th level caster, but that doesn't matter for my question), has what damage? 4d6 x1.5 if empowered only. 4x6 if maximized only. 4x6 + (4d6 x.5)?? I'm thinking 4d6 empowered really becomes 6d6? maximize the 6d6 = 36? I'm guessing, based upon previous posts, no?


Pretty sure you can't put more than one meta magic feat on a spell at a time.


Conundrum wrote:
Pretty sure you can't put more than one meta magic feat on a spell at a time.

Sure you can. Look at the text for maximize spell metamagic feat carefully. It already tells you what happens when you have a maximized, empowered spell (first, maximize the spell; then, add 1/2 the normal rolled result).


Yep, Intensify does nothing for spells that increase any aspect of a spell other than damage. It has no effect on the number of scorching rays or number of magic missiles for example.

Empowering Scorching Ray would have each ray deal 4d6 x 1.5 (average of 21), not 6d6. Maximizing Scorcing Ray would have each ray deal 24 damage. If you empowered and maximized it, each Scorching Ray would deal 24 + (4d6 x .5), which averages 31.

As you can see, it's probably not worth Maximizing at all.

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