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Can I overlap several spells if they are the same spell, but with different results? For example, could I cast resist energy 5 times to gain energy resistance against all 5 types of energy simultaneously?
Why or why not?
Can I overlap several spells if they are the same spell, but with different results? For example, could I cast resist energy 5 times to gain energy resistance against all 5 types of energy simultaneously?
Why or why not?
Yes. You could even cast resistance to the same energy to have the time frames overlap (ie, i'm in a volcano heading into a fight, i think i'll renew protection from fire NOW ) '
Spells or magical effects usually work as described, no matter how many other spells or magical effects happen to be operating in the same area or on the same recipient. Except in special cases, a spell does not affect the way another spell operates. Whenever a spell has a specific effect on other spells, the spell description explains that effect. Several other general rules apply when spells or magical effects operate in the same place:
So unless there's something that says they do interact, they dont.
Gaining Fire resistance is a different effect than gaining acid resistance, even if they come from the same spell, so they shouldn't be interacting at all.
So the question on my (and most other peoples minds) how are you going to try to twist/abuse this one?
So the question on my (and most other peoples minds) how are you going to try to twist/abuse this one?
*overly innocent tone* I'm not. Honest.
/tone
Seriously though. I've had people tell me that you could NOT do this for years (at least, online), and I wanted to see if it was any different in Pathfinder. That's all, no foul agenda on this one (or on ANY post).
Seriously though. I've had people tell me that you could NOT do this for years (at least, online), and I wanted to see if it was any different in Pathfinder. That's all, no foul agenda on this one (or on ANY post).
What you might be seeing is an interpretation of this rule on spell interactions:
Same Effect with Differing Results: The same spell can sometimes produce varying effects if applied to the same recipient more than once. Usually the last spell in the series trumps the others. None of the previous spells are actually removed or dispelled, but their effects become irrelevant while the f inal spell in the series lasts.
So, by that, the last cast Resist Energy would replace the previous ones. Of course, that opens up a whole new tactic for dealing with enemy casters. If he's resisting your energy attacks, "give" him resistance to something else, and have fun. :)
That's exactly what I've encountered.
As written, I don't believe the rules even cover the unique situation that is resist energy, protection from energy, and similar spells.
That's exactly what I've encountered.
As written, I don't believe the rules even cover the unique situation that is resist energy, protection from energy, and similar spells.
They are zen covered: they are covered by not being covered. Since they are not covered, they are covered under the rule that if they are not covered as an exceptional situation they both continue to function normally.
They are zen covered: they are covered by not being covered. Since they are not covered, they are covered under the rule that if they are not covered as an exceptional situation they both continue to function normally.That's exactly what I've encountered.
As written, I don't believe the rules even cover the unique situation that is resist energy, protection from energy, and similar spells.
I hope you're right. It doesn't make much sense for me to not be able to protect myself from different energy types.
I've met many already who would disagree.
They are zen covered: they are covered by not being covered. Since they are not covered, they are covered under the rule that if they are not covered as an exceptional situation they both continue to function normally.That's exactly what I've encountered.
As written, I don't believe the rules even cover the unique situation that is resist energy, protection from energy, and similar spells.
I hope you're right. It doesn't make much sense for me to not be able to protect myself from different energy types.
I've met many already who would disagree.
Hard to respond to what they're saying when i can\t see it. Rules lawering is hard enough to untangle when you can see the strands.
Same Effect with Differing Results: The same spell can sometimes produce varying effects if applied to the same recipient more than once. Usually the last spell in the series trumps the others. None of the previous spells are actually removed or dispelled, but their effects become irrelevant while the f inal spell in the series lasts.
So, by that, the last cast Resist Energy would replace the previous ones. Of course, that opens up a whole new tactic for dealing with enemy casters. If he's resisting your energy attacks, "give" him resistance to something else, and have fun. :)
That's for things like baleful polymorph: it realy doesn't matter if you had alter self going to turn into a gnoll if you were subsequently turned into a garden slug.
note "effects become irrelevant" which certainly does not apply to someone with fire and acid resistance.
That's for things like baleful polymorph: it realy doesn't matter if you had alter self going to turn into a gnoll if you were subsequently turned into a garden slug.note "effects become irrelevant" which certainly does not apply to someone with fire and acid resistance.
Generally, I would agree. I am just pointing out that, as written, it can be read to mean casting the same spell (Resist Energy) for different effects (energy type) follows this behavior. For home games, the GM is free to rule as s/he wishes, but for organized play like the Pathfinder society, one clear interpretation is needed. Thus, it might a good candidate for the FAQ.