If you haven't started building your Kingdom,
How quickly did you connect to the city Loy/Latricia is building at Tatzlford?
How big was your kingdom when you connected with them?
If you haven't started building your Kingdom,
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1. Oleg's Trading Post
2. 18 months3. 10 (I think)
1. stag lords
2. quite some time, maybe between year 3 and 4
3. probably around 35 hex mark
1. Stag Lord's Fort
2. Third year (My group takes the winters off from exploration/expansion)
3. 22 hexes (Including Tatzylford & the one necessary to reach it.)
Thats my city. In our Kingmaker campaign, we sectioned off certain cities as governed personally by each PC.
We started with Olegston, and when we got there, i believe we had 27 hexes, and had spent 2 additional years on top of the first year the campaign gives you.
We are having a PC friendly and focused game. this is our game to let the PC's be what they always wanted to be, and have what they've always wanted to have. its THE campaign designed for it.
But word of advice; if thats not the mindset that you want for your game, restrict kingdom building. We only just started book 3, and our lowest kingdom stat, loyalty, is +379. We dont need any more farmland, unless we are cocerned for the future, our BP pool never starts a month lower then the last, and by the end of book 5, we are going to have every major magic item that we want....... each.
In so many words, slowly hand out build time.
1. North of the Stag Lord's fort at a river crossing. They figured that the Fort was haunted and wanted nothing to do with it (despite knowing about the bonus cheap castle). Also they had no interest at all in a town hall or a castle. After 2 years of build time, I strongly indicated to them that their dukedom would be a laughing stock with no town hall at the very least, so they finally built one.
2. Have not connected to Tatzlford and show no interest in doing so with 2 1/2 years of kingdom building and book 3 coming up.
3. Kingdom is still only at 11 hexes. They are too afraid of increasing consumption to annex hexes and although I have rolled many events, only one has been good, so they have learned to hate the event table, which has set them back many a time.
Is this an unreasonably small kingdom at this point? The highest stat is +27.
1. North of the Stag Lord's fort at a river crossing. They figured that the Fort was haunted and wanted nothing to do with it (despite knowing about the bonus cheap castle). Also they had no interest at all in a town hall or a castle. After 2 years of build time, I strongly indicated to them that their dukedom would be a laughing stock with no town hall at the very least, so they finally built one.
2. Have not connected to Tatzlford and show no interest in doing so with 2 1/2 years of kingdom building and book 3 coming up.
3. Kingdom is still only at 11 hexes. They are too afraid of increasing consumption to annex hexes and although I have rolled many events, only one has been good, so they have learned to hate the event table, which has set them back many a time.
Is this an unreasonably small kingdom at this point? The highest stat is +27.
For non-optimizers, I think this is actually very reasonable. My group is pretty much at the same spot. They expanded quickly to get to Tatzlford then realized they couldn't easily make the checks and the kingdom has stagnated a bit since then (thanks partly to a couple bad events as well). They're back on track now but we're about 2 years in and have 12 hexes. Our highest bonus is +28 I think.
Interesting,
we are just over a year into kingdom building and are 11 hexes with +40E(with ruler, coruler and spymaster)/30L/22S. We are aiming at building into Tazlford in month 13 or 14. We started in Olegs and have built a city on the Temple of the Elk (our ruler is a cleric of Erastil).
We are 44 months into the campaign with a size 43 kingdom. We were about size 35ish when we first annexed a hex adjacent to Tatzlford, and we still havn't annexed them. We have 3 cities so far -- our capital at the Stag Lord's fort, a town at Oleg's, and a holy city at the site of the shrine to Erastil in the Narlmarches. We just recently filled our first city district in the capital and are in the process of breaking ground for a second district (underground, using the Mountain hex price and timeline -- we are dwarves, after all). We have a 62 in each of Economy, Loyalty, and Stability, and have a total population of 28,000 people.
1. Stag Lord's Fort.
2. 3 years.
3. 11 or 12 hexes.
The players claimed Oleg's hex one month later.
Kingdom building has been a bit slower in my campaign as the players don't know the effects of a building until they build it, BP income is halved during winter, and I drastically cut the BPs received from selling magic items.