Gods and Domains.
Ok, so Deities get 5 domains.
Ok, officially when creating Deities. The Gods have to select the alignment domains that match their alignment
Neutral Good = Good, plus 4 more
Chaotic Good = Chaotic, Good, plus 3 more.
Chaotic Neutral = Chaotic, plus 4 more.
Chaotic Evil = Chaotic, Evil, plus 3 more.
Neutral Evil = Evil, plus 4 more.
Lawful Evil = Lawful, Evil, plus 3 more.
Lawful Neutral = Lawful, plus 4 more.
Lawful Good = Lawful, Good, plus 3 more.
(Plus = is equal to any non-alignment domains).
True Neutral = Any 5 (non-Alignment) domains.
Noticed this is how the PF phb gods are set up.
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Just checking before i work up some more gods.
Yeah, that's the basic, but when you're homebrewing gods there's really no reason you have to follow that since we're not talking RAW anyway.
And I think it's kind of unfortunate how all gods must have their alignment domain. I prefer gods that feels a little more human; they can have ideas, feelings and thoughts that aren't represented by their godhood. A god of thievery may very well be egoistic and uncaring enough to warrant an evil alignment, but might not really be interested in alignments and thus probably shouldn't confer the domain to his clerics, especially since the evil domain is more anti-good than anything else. The same can be said for a deity of fey and woodlands; she might personally be good of heart, but not care much for the good-vs-evil.
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As long as we are talking about Golarion, given that Gods dwell in the Outer Realms which are linked to alignments, having an alignment domain makes much sense if you want to cement your position at your home turf.
I've never liked the whole "And god X lives in THIS plane" thing. You shouldn't be able to find a scroll of plane shift and turn up on a god's doorstep. In my version of any cosmology, the vast majority of gods would dwell outside of the planar structure altogether. One or two would still dwell in a plane, but only if it really made sense (Asmodeus in Hell, for example).
You may not care at all, I don't know, but that dude is definitely infringing upon Erastil's territory. You're essentially making Erastil less powerful by giving part of his portfolio to someone else.
Just sayin'.
I think the whole point was he's not using Golarian gods.
Death to Erastil.. hehe
Lawful and an animal lover...and bow as favorite weapon... Argg :) hehe
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Ya deleted enter and moved it some where else more appropriate.
Want to make sure that building the deities, matches Golarian gods, so that by the RULES, they are all compatible. That way in a multi-dimension Outer-planes point of few everything stays as compatible as possible.
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I think the whole point was he's not using Golarian gods.You may not care at all, I don't know, but that dude is definitely infringing upon Erastil's territory. You're essentially making Erastil less powerful by giving part of his portfolio to someone else.
Just sayin'.
Well, he said "Just checking before I work up some more gods", which I took to mean, "more in addition to the ones that are already there". That's probably an incorrect interpretation, though, so...yeah, my bad.
Well, he said "Just checking before I work up some more gods", which I took to mean, "more in addition to the ones that are already there". That's probably an incorrect interpretation, though, so...yeah, my bad.I think the whole point was he's not using Golarian gods.You may not care at all, I don't know, but that dude is definitely infringing upon Erastil's territory. You're essentially making Erastil less powerful by giving part of his portfolio to someone else.
Just sayin'.
Understandable interpretation. I took it as he's built a few, and wanted to make sure he was doing it right. :)
Personally, I think that "major" deities in a pantheon should offer more versatility (because whatever the number of domains, you only select two, so that's not more power outright) than minor ones.
I see Zeus, Odin, Ra, and the like being able to offer up to six, perhaps even seven domains.
On the other side of the spectrum, if one was to worship a newly-ascended deity or a demigod, like Herakles, Sigurd, or Ramses II, they could be limited to three or four domains.
This is not so that everyone would flock to Zeus temple and nobody elsewhere. After all, polytheists civilizations have the ability to worship several gods at the same time, depending on circumstances. And minor gods could offer that association of domains their more powerful brethren haven't thought of, while still offering an interesting weapon of choice - which a godless cleric doesn't have access to, IIRC.
$0.02
The only problem then, is that you end up with Forgotten Realms gods, with every domain that there is.
I like the Hard limit. And 5 total sounds like a nice good number. Enough to give you an idea, but not some many that it becomes unwheedly.
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Personally, I think that "major" deities in a pantheon should offer more versatility (because whatever the number of domains, you only select two, so that's not more power outright) than minor ones.
I see Zeus, Odin, Ra, and the like being able to offer up to six, perhaps even seven domains.
On the other side of the spectrum, if one was to worship a newly-ascended deity or a demigod, like Herakles, Sigurd, or Ramses II, they could be limited to three or four domains.
Perhaps different aspects or cults of a deity could grant slightly different domains, if particularly diverse. Five domains already support a fairly wide range of beliefs.
For example, I thought my pre-Pathfinder example of Ylyma might provide Charm to most of her clerics but Community for certain racial aspects.
The only problem then, is that you end up with Forgotten Realms gods, with every domain that there is.
I like the Hard limit. And 5 total sounds like a nice good number. Enough to give you an idea, but not some many that it becomes unwheedly.
But you don't need to take a god. If there is some sort of "ideal" you want to devote yourself to you can just take two of the appropriate domains o.O
I made up entirely new gods for my world.
What I did was basically make a 3x3 grid, each with 3 gods (two True Deities and 1 Demigod per grid square).
That gave me 3 LG, 3 NG, 3 CG, and so on.
Then, I went through and on a spreadsheet filled in their Domains. Then I did a lookup on the grid and counted each domain. Obviously, the alignment domains had the highest counts (9 each). The rest I adjusted until I was happy with so that I had at least 2 gods with each domain, and no more than 6 with a given domain (other than alignment).
Once that was done, I went through and populated the subdomains for each god, and did another lookup/count on that. I did that to ensure I had at least one god with each Subdomain.
After that, I assigned gods to Pantheons (Human, Elf/Drow, Dragon, Monstrous Humanoid, Gnome, Dwarf, Halfling, and a few with no pantheon).
Now I'm typing them all up (got 21 of 27 done).
Personally, I think that "major" deities in a pantheon should offer more versatility (because whatever the number of domains, you only select two, so that's not more power outright) than minor ones.
I see Zeus, Odin, Ra, and the like being able to offer up to six, perhaps even seven domains.
On the other side of the spectrum, if one was to worship a newly-ascended deity or a demigod, like Herakles, Sigurd, or Ramses II, they could be limited to three or four domains.
Golarion doesn't technically use the Forgotten Realms greater/intermediate/lesser deity metric, but every single deity printed in the Core Rulebook is the equivalent of a Greater Deity. In fact, IIRC those are the only deities of that degree of power in the default setting. There are other deities printed in other products, and IIRC they do indeed have fewer domains. More that 5 domains seems to be against the design of the game.
Golarion doesn't technically use the Forgotten Realms greater/intermediate/lesser deity metric, but every single deity printed in the Core Rulebook is the equivalent of a Greater Deity. In fact, IIRC those are the only deities of that degree of power in the default setting. There are other deities printed in other products, and IIRC they do indeed have fewer domains. More that 5 domains seems to be against the design of the game.Personally, I think that "major" deities in a pantheon should offer more versatility (because whatever the number of domains, you only select two, so that's not more power outright) than minor ones.
I see Zeus, Odin, Ra, and the like being able to offer up to six, perhaps even seven domains.
On the other side of the spectrum, if one was to worship a newly-ascended deity or a demigod, like Herakles, Sigurd, or Ramses II, they could be limited to three or four domains.
Actually,
If you look here you'll see a comment by James Jacobs that specifies that in Golarian, True Dieties get 5 domains and 6 subdomains, and Demigods get 4 domains and 5 subdomains.
Gods and Domains.
Ok, so Deities get 5 domains.
Ok, officially when creating Deities. The Gods have to select the alignment domains that match their alignment
Neutral Good = Good, plus 4 more
Chaotic Good = Chaotic, Good, plus 3 more.
Chaotic Neutral = Chaotic, plus 4 more.
Chaotic Evil = Chaotic, Evil, plus 3 more.
Neutral Evil = Evil, plus 4 more.
Lawful Evil = Lawful, Evil, plus 3 more.
Lawful Neutral = Lawful, plus 4 more.
Lawful Good = Lawful, Good, plus 3 more.(Plus = is equal to any non-alignment domains).
True Neutral = Any 5 (non-Alignment) domains.
Noticed this is how the PF phb gods are set up.
.................Just checking before i work up some more gods.
That's the way it is in published Golarion.
Doesn't mean you can't change it for your home version, or that you need to keep this up for your own gods - even if there's some interplanetary shenanigans (note that the Pathfinder cosmology has a full universe as its material plane, with the understanding that you can put every planet you want in there - Earth, Toril, Athas, Mar Sara, Krypton, Y... So basically, travelling from your homebrew world to Golarion would be interplanetary, or interstellar, or intergalactic, or something like that. No need to change dimensions. In the standard Cosmology. What you do with it is your choice, of course).
So I see no problem with a bunch of gods where some rather nice goddess doesn't good the Good domain because she's not really representing goodness but is just a good-natured gal.
You could also say that some gods get more or less domains. Just be aware that this will mean that clerics of those deities might have some advantages or disadvantages. Should not be too bad, though. After all, not every domain is created exactly equal, so some deities already have an advantage by having a better domain selection. Or a better favoured weapon to grant their clerics proficiency with, and so on.