Cavalier of the Sword: Is it broken when combined with the Mounted Skirmisher Feat?


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Alright, so let's take a look at the order of the Sword Cavalier. The Ability in question is as follows:

Mounted Mastery:

Mounted Mastery:

At 8th level, the cavalier ignores the armor check penalty when using the Ride skill, regardless of whether or not the creature he is riding is his mount. Whenever he makes a charge attack while mounted, he receives a +4 dodge bonus to his AC to avoid attacks set against his charge. When making such an attack, he can add his mount’s Strength modifier to the damage roll, in addition to his own.

The feat, Mounted Skirmisher, says the following:

Mounted Skirmisher:

Mounted Skirmisher
Prerequisites: Ride rank 14, Mounted Combat, Trick
Riding.
Benefit: If your mount moves its speed or less, you can
still take a full-attack action.
Normal: If your mount moves more than 5 feet, you can
only take an attack action.

Alright, so let's say your GM allows you to take Oversized two-weapon fighting from the 3.5 books. A lance, when mounted, is a one-size weapon. You take Spirited Charge, your mount charges, moving less than its speed, triggering Mounted Skirmisher. So, assuming you have two weapon fighting, improved two-weapon fighting, and greater two-weapon fighting, are you able to make your 6 attacks, with Spirited Charge coming into play for the Triple Damage on each attack?


Falls apart at the "Charge attack" line in mounted mastery -- since you have to full attack in order to use mounted skirmisher and you have to charge when using mounted mastery you can't do both at once -- both are full round actions and therefore are mutually exclusive.


Abraham spalding wrote:
Falls apart at the "Charge attack" line in mounted mastery -- since you have to full attack in order to use mounted skirmisher and you have to charge when using mounted mastery you can't do both at once -- both are full round actions and therefore are mutually exclusive.

Ah, thanks.


A feat you might want to look into along the same lines let you basically cleave while using ride by attack -- that one would work with this -- but it's two different opponents that are adjacent to each other. I think it was a lastwall feat but I can't remember where I saw it... look over on the Archives of Nethys -- it's probably there with reference material too.


I saw somewhere else on the boards a build for a Barbarian/Cavalier that added Pounce and the ability to share Rage with the Mount. That lets you double your Rage bonuses and get a full attack with a lance charge. Some pretty insane damage that way.


Not meaning to raise this thread, but it seems the most applicable.

Isn't your mount taking the charge action, and the rider is merely using their standard action once in range to make their attack?

pfsrd wrote:
If your mount charges, you also take the AC penalty associated with a charge. If you make an attack at the end of the charge, you receive the bonus gained from the charge. When charging on horseback, you deal double damage with a lance (see Charge).

I believe the keyword is the "if your mount charges" which implies the PC is not taking a charge action.

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