Spell Requirements and Magic Item Creation


Rules Questions


I have an item creator Cler 7 Sor 1. I am trying to upgrade a Headband of Vast INT + 2 to a + 4. I was going to have a hired mage cast Fox's Cunning for me every day. According to my interpretation, this would have increased the DC by 5 (now 13). The other players said that I did not have to have the spell cast at all. I contested that the spell had to be cast to create the item. I do not have access to Fox's Cunning at all. The DM seemed to agree with the other players and I know it was his call, but I wanted to make sure that this doesn't come back on me.

Can an item creator make a wondrous item without having the spell cast(by him or another spell caster), even if he doesn't have access to the spell at all?

Another way to phrase the question: Does the spell requirements have to be met at all?

If this is the case, a cleric could make a necklace of fireballs or boots of levitation.

This discussion came up in a recent session and I tried to search for the answer but couldn't find it in the mssgbrd search.


Except for spell-trigger and spell-completion items (this means scrolls, wands, and staves; I don't know how the potion argument ended in that other thread), you do not need to know or have available a given spell to make an item. You can make the headband w/o fox's cunning, you just need to up the DC by 5. You can do this all by your self, with no help from another caster.

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Lathiira wrote:
Except for spell-trigger and spell-completion items (this means scrolls, wands, and staves; I don't know how the potion argument ended in that other thread), you do not need to know or have available a given spell to make an item. You can make the headband w/o fox's cunning, you just need to up the DC by 5. You can do this all by your self, with no help from another caster.

Yup. And if you have a caster help by providing the spell, you don't increase the DC.


Yup. And if you have a caster help by providing the spell, you don't increase the DC.

Well that just opened up a can of worms. Awesome. I thought I was restricted but now I have a whole new list of items I am about to create!!!

Thanks dudes.

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