I assumed I knew how familiars skills functioned but have found 2 examples of me being wrong. I'm hoping to get confirmation either way...
1) does your familiar gain ranks = # of ranks you have, use its own stats, but does not treat the skills as class skills. If it's skill roll is better then yours, it uses its own skill check.
2) as 1 but does treat them as class skills
3) use your skill roll as listed.
Hmmm.
I assumed I knew how familiars skills functioned but have found 2 examples of me being wrong. I'm hoping to get confirmation either way...
1) does your familiar gain ranks = # of ranks you have, use its own stats, but does not treat the skills as class skills. If it's skill roll is better then yours, it uses its own skill check.
2) as 1 but does treat them as class skills
3) use your skill roll as listed.
Hmmm.
Skills: For each skill in which either the master or thefamiliar has ranks, use either the normal skill ranks for an animal of that type or the master’s skill ranks, whichever is better. In either case, the familiar uses its own ability modifiers. Regardless of a familiar’s total skill modifiers, some skills may remain beyond the familiar’s ability to use. Familiars treat Acrobatics, Climb, Fly, Perception, Stealth, and Swim as class skills.
1) They get the ranks the caster does if they are higher. Nothing about rolls. It makes its own roll with the ranks it has (by itself or virtue of the familiar bond) with its own modifiers.
2) Class skills are listed in the last sentance, those are all it has for class skills.
3) Your skill roll is yours, you and the familiar have different attributes and need to make separate rolls.
Ok - that's what I thought. I found two written up familiars using the master's skill rolls, point per point. The familiar does not get to treat skills its master has as class skills - ouch!
Ok - that's what I thought. I found two written up familiars using the master's skill rolls, point per point. The familiar does not get to treat skills its master has as class skills - ouch!
They would be point for point if the familiar had the same skills as the master and so over-lapped. Technically you could have more skills than you should if the familiar had all differing skills than the caster. The familiar isn't the class, so yeah no class skills.
Ok - that's what I thought. I found two written up familiars using the master's skill rolls, point per point. The familiar does not get to treat skills its master has as class skills - ouch!They would be point for point if the familiar had the same skills as the master and so over-lapped. Technically you could have more skills than you should if the familiar had all differing skills than the caster. The familiar isn't the class, so yeah no class skills.
Thanks for the quick replys!