Inquisitor Discern Lies Ability


Rules Questions


This ability has been puzzling me for a little while now.

First, what's the DC? As a spell-like ability, we need to know the equivilent spell level. Presumably it keys off of the Inquisitor's Wisdom? The spell itself is 4th level for an Inquisitor however, so it's probably a safe assumption that makes it DC14+WIS. Some confirmation would be nice though.

Second, the ability states it is an immediate action. Does this mean I can use it to determine the truth of a statement just as, or immediately after, the target speaks?


The description says the inquisitor can discern lies "as the spell", so I assume it is indeed DC 14 + Wis.

And yes, I think you can use discern lies as a target is speaking as an immediate action. I don't think it would come up very often in the middle of a fight or other initiative sequence, but you never know.


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Chris P. Bacon wrote:

The description says the inquisitor can discern lies "as the spell", so I assume it is indeed DC 14 + Wis.

And yes, I think you can use discern lies as a target is speaking as an immediate action. I don't think it would come up very often in the middle of a fight or other initiative sequence, but you never know.

Of course, that brings up another odd situation because it's a spell-like ability, of a spell that has Verbal & Somatic components and a Divine Focus.

NPC: No! I swear I didn't steal...
PC (holding up his holy symbol and gesticulating): Houshmandzadeh!
NPC (giving PC a funny look): ...are you ok?


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Spell like abilites do not require verbal, somatic, material or a focus components.


ZappoHisbane wrote:


Of course, that brings up another odd situation because it's a spell-like ability, of a spell that has Verbal & Somatic components and a Divine Focus.

NPC: No! I swear I didn't steal...
PC (holding up his holy symbol and gesticulating): Houshmandzadeh!
NPC (giving PC a funny look): ...are you ok?

Nope.

As per the SLA section in Universal Monster Rules, first sentence...

Spell-like abilities are magical and work just like spells (though they are not spells and so have no verbal, somatic, focus, or material components).


Anguish wrote:
ZappoHisbane wrote:


Of course, that brings up another odd situation because it's a spell-like ability, of a spell that has Verbal & Somatic components and a Divine Focus.

NPC: No! I swear I didn't steal...
PC (holding up his holy symbol and gesticulating): Houshmandzadeh!
NPC (giving PC a funny look): ...are you ok?

Nope.

As per the SLA section in Universal Monster Rules, first sentence...

Spell-like abilities are magical and work just like spells (though they are not spells and so have no verbal, somatic, focus, or material components).

Huh. Whoops, my bad.


Which is perfect for the inquisitor. Instead of forcing his rosette at you and waving his hands, he can just cock an eyebrow, or tilt his head and know if you are lying.


Quote:

NPC: No! I swear I didn't steal...

PC (holding up his holy symbol and gesticulating): Houshmandzadeh!
NPC (giving PC a funny look): ...are you ok?

The thought of this scene still gives me the giggles, though.

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