
Aris Kosmopoulos |
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I am tired of reading threads regarding grapple. I have also created some of these threads in the past. IT IS CLEAR that grapple rules are UNCLEAR, they require clarification.
I do not think that the problem is in the designers ideas. I believe that the new Combat maneuver system is a beautiful addition to the game and I love it. The problem IMO is in the way the rules were written regarding grapple. They are fuzzy and they give space for many different interpretations. So what I suggest ? I would like an article from the designers (less than a page) that answers all these questions that appear again and again in almost the 5% of the rules forum:
1) Clarification regarding pinned and grappled condition: What exactly they would like it to do. An answer that is compatible with problems regarding skills like escape artist and grapplers that use agile maneuver.
2) Clarification regarding in what situation special bonuses apply especially at CMD during grappling. Need to explain when +2 at CMD from improved grapple applied at CMD and what the the word resist grapple at traits and feats implies?
a)Does it apply always when you oppose a grapple check?
b)Does it apply only when some tries to grapple you and not when he tries to escape from you.
c)What happens in the grey area when he tries to reverse the grapple? Remember that by RAW you fist roll and the decide whether you want to escape or revere the grapple.
3) Grab!
a) Can you grab more than 1 in a round? (all agree that you can sustain only one grapple one the second round since it is a standard action so the problem is for the first round).
b) If during a full attack you grab one and you conduct the grapple normally do you continue with your other attacks? Can you grapple a second one afterwards? Do you have to leave the first one as a free action first to do that or even to attack?
c) Multiple grapplings. How A grabs B and C grabs A exactly works? It is more or less explained by many players but a clear example from the designers wouldn't hurt.
d) Can you generally reverse a grab? Can you reverse a grab that was made with -20 penalty.
Generally if all those situations had specific keyword names and the rules used special keywords when referring to one another things would be much simpler. This is just a suggestion. For example there could be a different keyword for the grappler and the grappled or for the situation were a monster grabs someone normally and another when it grapples someone with a -20.
Please F.A.Q. this post if you feel the same way and would like an official answer too. The more we F.A.Q. the more likely we will receive an answer (or maybe not :-P). Please fill free to add anything that I have missed and you think that should be added. The purpose of this thread is not start a debate of what is wrong or what is right but to request for an official answer all together as one voice.