Low magic Kingmaker PBP Homebrew Recruitment


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Seeing how quickly PBP games fill up I thought I might offer to run a game for four or five players.

The game will be the Kingmaker AP (please don't apply if you've played this AP before) but set in a homebrew world which will to some extent be determined by players' backgrounds. I would expect that players can commit to a minimum of 1 post per day.

Classes: Core Rulebook and APB only: No Cleics, No Elves (half-elves are OK but can not know their elven parent)
There are world-specific reasons for this which i'll go into in the discussion thread when i've selected players.

I'd like to experiment with a low magic campaign and would like spell-using classes to multiclass at alternate levels with non-spellcating classes (paladins and rangers can take non-casting options to count as non-spellcasters – Warrior of the holy light and Skirmisher respectively) If not enough people want to try this i'll let pure casters in. I'm also willing to change other restrictions if not enough people are willing to go along with these so if you're interested in playing only if i ease the restrictions say so!

Stats: 4d6 choose best 3 rolls. Do this 7 times and discard the lowest.
Characters get two traits – you may choose one, I will select another for you based on background.

At this stage I'm just after character concepts – Race, Class, and very brief character background which those selected can expand on later, I'm looking for roleplayers not min-maxers.

I'll wait for a couple of days to gauge the level of interest and will make selections on the weekend. If you have any other thoughts or suggestions about the campaign let me know!

Silver Crusade

Hymenopterix wrote:

At this stage I'm just after character concepts – Race, Class, and very brief character background which those selected can expand on later, I'm looking for roleplayers not min-maxers.

I'll wait for a couple of days to gauge the level of interest and will make selections on the weekend. If you have any other thoughts or suggestions about the campaign let me know!

I'm interested in something like this. I'm all for the low magic. Really quickly, I'm looking a a Human CG Swashbuckler Rogue, recently released/escaped from prison for winning a death duel against a member of an influential family. He needs to get some space until things cool off back home. I'll flesh this out once I get the time to run the numbers and get your input on world details.


Shadewest wrote:


I'm looking a a Human CG Swashbuckler Rogue, recently released/escaped from prison for winning a death duel against a member of an influential family. He needs to get some space until things cool off back home. I'll flesh this out once I get the time to run the numbers and get your input on world details.

Sounds easy to integrate into the world - which is a kind of 17th - 18th century setting (no gunpowder though) lookin good.

On this topic, for anyone interested in playing a summoner, Eidilons will have slightly different flavor. - think steampunk type construct powered by a summoned entity. The downside of this will be that they can't be dismissed, however I'll let them progress acording to your total character level - not just your summoner levels! - discussion about this is welcome.


I'm very interested by your concept and would love to be in such a game.
The way I see the context (and correct me if I am wrong) is a place where magic is rare and frowned upon.

The concept I would like to play is that of a house scion that has grabbed the occasion proposed both to prove his worth but also to avoid suspicion as he has some magical powers that he has always hidden but that are starting to show on their own. The PC would be a Paladin (Warrior of the holy light) mixed with either sorcerer or oracle.

Liberty's Edge

Would a bard be considered a caster-type that would need to multi-class?

Scarab Sages

I have a CG/CN (not really sure yet) Order of the Shield Human Cavalier idea I've been playing with for a while. He was a Knight-in-training until he found out the lord he would be serving was involved in some less-than-ethical backroom dealings that he refused to defend when the time came, so he got kicked out and has taken up the life of a wandering adventurer since.

RPG Superstar 2015 Top 8

I would LOVE to play Kingmaker. I've never played in any AP before and there is the caveat--I don't know Golarion very well. But it looks like you are taking this in a different direction anyway--one that sounds very intriguing.

I'd like to throw my hat in the ring.

Race: Half-Elf
Class: Ranger. Possible multi-class into Rogue
Concept: Orphan, picked up and raised by traveling caravan, perpetual wanderer type, lives off the land and earns money as a bounty hunter. Heard of the opportunities offered to carve out one's own piece of territory, and found the idea appealed to him, both in terms of opportunity to adventure and to (eventually) settle, something he never thought he'd be able to do.

Liberty's Edge

Race: Human

Class: Bard/monk multi-class, LG

Concept: Priestess of a music, peace, joy, happiness-oriented diety. She believes it to be her duty to bring civility and culture to the savage, unclaimed lands. She sees herself as essential to keeping those travelling to the new lands from succumbing to savagery. She isn't stuffy and proper, but may appear a bit condescendingly maternal to some of the more chaotic personalities.

Dark Archive

Human Multi-Class Rogue/Fighter, Rogue Sniper, Fighter Archer- varients.

Rejected from a Proximate Aldori Swordfighting school for, Getting "Handsey" with the Sword master's Daughter(Akarious always was a hit with the Ladies)... Akarious Fled for his life, "bah, I was never that good with a sword, I'll be better off! Taking to the streets, he fell in with a rough Crowd, learning to pick pocket. Till one day a Ranger from out of town caught him. He saw potential in Akarious, So instead of taking his hands, he took him as a companion. Akarious Spent years under the Guidance of the ranger, Learning how to shoot a Bow with deadly accuracy, until one day the ranger was gone, Up and left in the middle of the night. Not sure what to do, Akarious headed back to Restov in search of work.

Trait Choice:

Charming
Source Pathfinder RPG Character Traits 6
Blessed with good looks, you’ve come to depend on the fact that others find you attractive. You gain a +1 trait bonus when you use Bluff or Diplomacy on a character that is (or could be) sexually attracted to you, and a +1 trait bonus to the save DC of any language dependent spell you cast on such characters or creatures.


This sounds pretty sweet. CG Human barbarian. Sent away by his clan to "prove his manhood", after a few years he heard rumor that his tribe had been wiped out by monstrous war parties. Now he looks to reclaim some land for his people and eventually repopulate the tribe.

4d6 ⇒ (5, 2, 2, 2) = 11
4d6 ⇒ (6, 5, 5, 3) = 19
4d6 ⇒ (2, 5, 5, 3) = 15
4d6 ⇒ (3, 6, 5, 1) = 15
4d6 ⇒ (5, 3, 3, 4) = 15
4d6 ⇒ (6, 6, 6, 5) = 23
4d6 ⇒ (5, 1, 5, 6) = 17

So,
9
16
13
14
12
18
16
Drop the 9
Probably take Courageous trait (+2 against fear) and leaning toward falchion or scythe.


Stat rolls for Akarious

4d6 ⇒ (3, 3, 3, 5) = 14
4d6 ⇒ (3, 4, 6, 5) = 18
4d6 ⇒ (3, 3, 6, 3) = 15
4d6 ⇒ (1, 6, 4, 1) = 12
4d6 ⇒ (3, 6, 6, 6) = 21
4d6 ⇒ (4, 1, 2, 1) = 8
4d6 ⇒ (3, 6, 2, 5) = 16

That gives me

11, 15, 12, 11, 18, 7, 14.

Drop the 7.


Race: Human
Class Cavalier lvl 1 Order of the Sword
Alignment: Lawful Good
Desired Role: Ruler (So that his goals of whisking away the downtrodden of Brevoy may come to pass)
Best Role: Marshall (So that he can train new knights/cavaliers and uphold the law through might of arms if necessary)
Initial traits: Rich Parents

Appearance and Personality:

If his appearance is a reflection of his personality then evil better find a new profession and stay the heck out of this guys way! Whenever this warrior charges into the field on his loyal destrier, its in full battle gear which is always his winged helm and freshly polished armor along with his heavy lance that bares a wicked broad spade spear head. His destrier mirrors his ferocity clad in full mail barding with an armored head piece, to protect its eyes, bearing a spiked point in imitation to that of a unicorn's horn.

As a new member of the Order of the Sword, he upholds its tenets to the letter and is willing to sacrifice himself to defend the innocent from harm and is known for recklessly charging into battle if he believes it will help his order succeed.

He is a young adult, 17 years old, and is somewhat naive to how brutal the world is since he was born and raised in the city of Restov. He clings to the old stories of chivalry and honor, which makes him somewhat gullible to people in 'distress'. Driven by his code of honor and ideal's Mein can be a force to reckon with if you are at the receiving end of his charge. Beneath all the armor though is a caring individual who is willing to give the shirt off his back to someone less fortunate then him.

He stands roughly 6'1" and weighs in at 200lb's with an athletic build from a life of hard training and horsemanship. With light blond hair and blue eyes he is your average Rostlander

4d6 ⇒ (3, 3, 5, 5) = 16
4d6 ⇒ (3, 3, 6, 3) = 15
4d6 ⇒ (5, 3, 3, 3) = 14
4d6 ⇒ (2, 1, 1, 3) = 7
4d6 ⇒ (3, 3, 2, 4) = 12
4d6 ⇒ (2, 3, 3, 1) = 9
4d6 ⇒ (6, 5, 4, 5) = 20

that gives me~
13, 12, 11, 6, 10, 8, 16

Drop the 6~

Not the best rolls but workable~ =D


Llaelian wrote:
The way I see the context (and correct me if I am wrong) is a place where magic is rare and frowned upon.

Good guess, but not quite. :)

- Magic still exists and is accepted by the general population, however very-high level magic does not exist and magic items are rare (there will be non-magical equivilants to some items though). The priesthood (the pantheon is integrated) have no problem with magic but most of them do not possess it.

- Wizards are researchers into how magic works (think Newton) this discipline is young.
- Sorcerers are people who spontaneously develop powers.
- Oracels are people who spontaneously develop powers traditionally attributed to the gods. They are sometimes (but not often) linked to the church. Some fringe researchers believe these powers are simply a different manifestation of arcane magic. Oracles are very rare.
- Bards are people who spontaneously develop powers related to music and performance (standard).
- Witches are people who have formed a bond with an entitiy that allows them to perform magic
- Inquisitorsare members of the church found to have magical ability. They are forbidden from raising high in the heirarchy
- Alchemists are researchers into how magic works this discipline is young.
- Summoners are people who spontaneously develop powers related to summoning creatures, and who have an instinctive ability to create mechanical Eidilons .
- Druids are worshipers of the animistic religions who develop magic abilities. They are ofter important figures within these societies.
- Clerics do not exist.

hope that helps.


Cuchulainn wrote:
Would a bard be considered a caster-type that would need to multi-class?

Yes.


Cuchulainn wrote:

Race: Human

Class: Bard/monk multi-class, LG

Concept: Priestess of a music, peace, joy, happiness-oriented diety. She believes it to be her duty to bring civility and culture to the savage, unclaimed lands. She sees herself as essential to keeping those travelling to the new lands from succumbing to savagery. She isn't stuffy and proper, but may appear a bit condescendingly maternal to some of the more chaotic personalities.

Good concept, I like the fact that you're not put off being a priest by being unable to be a cleric.. :)

However (should have said this before) priests represent the whole pantheon, they are not dedicated to single gods. (this goes for inquisitors also but NOT oracles who are seen as deriving their powers from a single god)

The Nine gods are:

Belan god of War (battle mystrey)
Maleia goddess of Death (bones mystery)
Parfan god of Fire (flames mystrey)
Serafina goddess of the Heavens (heavens mystrey)
Viarda goddess of Brith and Farming (life mystrey)
Fillan god of Learning (lore mystrey)
Lythan god of Artifice (stone mystrey)
Ekelan god of the Sea (waves mystrey)
Susara goddess of Storms (wind mystrey)

These are the gods of the "civilised" western lands where they are called upon in appropriate situtaions. People worship all the gods but may have favourites (e.g. farmers will tend to offer thanks and direct prayers to Viarda and Susara more than the other gods).

P.S. (edit) Many priests have started to head to the new lands to covert the "heathens" so that element of your background would fit right in. Also, Oracles are not necessarily particularly devoted to the gods.


Celestial Half-Porc wrote:
This sounds pretty sweet. CG Human barbarian. Sent away by his clan to "prove his manhood", after a few years he heard rumor that his tribe had been wiped out by monstrous war parties. Now he looks to reclaim some land for his people and eventually repopulate the tribe.

Cool,.. Barbarians can either be from the northern cold wastes or from the tropical swamps of the new lands. (just for character background, i'd recommend the humid south) They traditionaly worship nature spirits but some have converted to the main religion outlined above.


Some really good concepts guys! I'll wait for another couple to come in before making selections.

(I'll be sorry to have to disappoint anyone but as a first-time PBP GM i can't handle too many.)

If possible please post under only one alias for now so that i can more easily keep track of who's who.

Any questions? - just ask.

Liberty's Edge

Hymenopterix wrote:


Good concept, I like the fact that you're not put off being a priest by being unable to be a cleric.. :)

However (should have said this before) priests represent the whole pantheon, they are not dedicated to single gods. (this goes for inquisitors also but NOT oracles who are seen as deriving their powers from a single god)

The Nine gods are:

Belan god of War (battle mystrey)
Maleia goddess of Death (bones mystery)
Parfan god of Fire (flames mystrey)
Serafina goddess of the Heavens (heavens mystrey)
Viarda goddess of Brith and Farming (life mystrey)
Fillan god of Learning (lore mystrey)
Lythan god of Artifice (stone mystrey)
Ekelan god of the Sea (waves mystrey)
Susara goddess of Storms (wind mystrey)

These are the gods of the "civilised" western lands where they are called upon in appropriate situtaions. People worship all the gods but may have favourites (e.g. farmers will tend to offer thanks and direct prayers to Viarda and Susara more than the other gods).

P.S. (edit) Many priests have started to head to the new lands to covert the "heathens" so that element of your background would fit right in. Also, Oracles are not necessarily particularly devoted to the gods.

Excellent. A patheonic priest fits with my concept just fine. Thanks for the feedback!


Another bit of background for those interested in being Non-casters...

Cavaliers Given the historical period, full-plate wearing knights are very uncommon (relegated more to ceremonial duties) so you won't necessarilly find it easy to get full plate - I'll think a bit about barding.

In this era the heavy cavalry equilvilant of knights are more like napolionic era heavy lancers they will mostly be formally trained as a part of standing armies.

Fighters Pretty standard - could be proffesionaly trained as part of the army or from a duelling school or from the streets etc.

Rogues Again pretty standard - most backgrounds should work fine.

Barbarians As mentioned above these could come from the western lands - northern cold tundra, or from the southern tropical area in the newly settled east.

Rangers Again most backgrounds should be fine. These characters may even be "native trackers" from the southern regions of the newly settled east if anyone's intersted?

Paladins I'm still looking at how they fit in, so intersting ideas are welcome!

Monks Honestly haven't thought how these guys'll fit in so if you can come up with an interesting background for how they do that'd be great! - maybe they're the priests?

Don't let these thoughts limit you too much. All of this is subject to change if good ideas are forthcoming.

Silver Crusade

4d6 ⇒ (2, 3, 5, 3) = 13
4d6 ⇒ (1, 5, 5, 1) = 12
4d6 ⇒ (1, 2, 6, 1) = 10
4d6 ⇒ (4, 2, 1, 3) = 10
4d6 ⇒ (4, 1, 6, 5) = 16
4d6 ⇒ (6, 4, 4, 2) = 16
4d6 ⇒ (4, 6, 6, 3) = 19

So, then
Volpe Coltello, Master Fencer (ahem...)

Chaotic Good Human Rogue(Swashbuckler) 1
Strength 14 |14
Dexterity 16 +2 |18
Constitution 15 |15
Intelligence 9 |9
Wisdom 11 |11
Charisma 11 |11

Traits:
Fencer
??????

Skills:
Acrobatics +8
Bluff +4
Disable Device +8
K:Local +3
Perception +4
Sense Motive +4
Sleight of Hand +8
Stealth +8

More to come if I'm chosen.


Hey, I figured I'd throw my hat in, even with all of the Cavaliers running about. Here's my take, and I like how it appears...

Edit: My posting will be at the very least once a day. Maybe twice, if I'm lucky.

Name: Franz Kreiter
Class: Cavalier, Order of the Sword.
Race:Human
Alignment: Lawful Evil (Can change to neutral, if it's a problem.)
Desired Role: Ruler - None can hold an iron fist greater than he!
Most appropriate?: General. Absolute authority is a grand desire, and an architect must keep this in mind.

Background: (Teaser)
A bastard-child, Franz had been nosed for such allegations in his teenage years. The moment he had found some scrap of reality to his true heritage, he could do nothing but gloat - but such gloating led to a harsh kick in the face, when he had been assaulted by his peers, and told he was 'the scum of a noble's boot,' to put it gently. This fueled him, and forced him to make something of a name of himself - for he would take on his true name, and sought nothing but the glory he had been denied, at any cost.

This led him to knighthood - something he believed was a stepping stone along the path. He undertook much training, and much frowning with the talk of 'chivalry', though he listened very, very closely. When his initiation was all said and done,he could only wear a wicked grin - he would surely uphold chivalry, with a taste of malice deep within.

For Hymenopterix:

Show:

I realized afterwards you were a fellow player in nightflier's PBP of Korvosa I dropped from. Since then, I had time to reorganize everything, and I'm on a far better path. I also have more time than I expected once it had all been figured out - I'm hopin' we can start fresh again.


I wasn't sure on what type of armor you were going to have in this campaign and now that I know it will fit in well with my cavalier. I didn't want to over do the details but to effectively wear the heavier armor's you have to have someone to help you don and remove it so I picture him being in a medium armor that he can take on and off himself. Much like the link you so graciously provided. I look forward to what you decide on the barding. =)

Just so you know I'm willing to fill whatever role the party needs. I mainly posted my Cavalier because i've wanted to play one in the Kingmaker campaign since it isn't just a Dungeon Crawl xD. But if they are unfeasible then I can easily slip into the roll of a ranger but that can be decided at a later date.

But until things get decided I will stick with what I posted.

Some details I forgot to add above, I can post more then once a day and will be able to give advance notice if i'm going to vanish for a day or part of a day. I have some idea of the setting of the Kingmaker AP but haven't got the chance to play.

Thanks! =D


OK guys,

so far i think the applicants are:
.
.
Shadewest: Rogue
Llaelian: Paladin / caster (sorcerer or oracle)
Face_P0lluti0n: Cavalier
DeathQuaker: Ranger
Cuchulain: Bard / Monk
Solarius (Akarius): Rogue / Fighter
Celestial Half-Porc: Barbarian
Bein'Meleth Ramaloce: Cavalier
Genesys: Cavalier

So (in no particular order):

3 Cavaliers
2 Rogues (sort of)
1 Ranger
1 Barbarian
1 Bard/Monk
1 Paladin/Caster

For a total of 9 applicants.

I'll wait for at least one more before making my decision. You've probably got more chance if you choose a class not covered yet so that we end up with a well balanced party! If anyone who's already applied wants to resubmit another character to increase their chances feel free (I'll prob only choose one cavalier at most! Cavaliers should do fine in this AP but we don't want too much doubling up) please use the same avatar so i know who's who.

Should have a list of the final five within 24 hours.

for Genesys:
Hi, Nightfliers Korvosa has only just gotten into the action so you might be able to re-join. Maybe post on the discussion board and ask?


Hymenopterix wrote:
Llaelian wrote:
The way I see the context (and correct me if I am wrong) is a place where magic is rare and frowned upon.

Good guess, but not quite. :)

- Magic still exists and is accepted by the general population, however very-high level magic does not exist and magic items are rare (there will be non-magical equivilants to some items though). The priesthood (the pantheon is integrated) have no problem with magic but most of them do not possess it.

Thanks for the explanations.

Coming back to what a paladin can be, if in your world, divine magic is very rare, paladin must be as well. Even if they don't cast spells, they have healing powers that are not seen elsewhere except with the rare oracles or a few bards or druids.

In that sense, I would put the paladins (with or without spellcasting) in a similar bunch as oracles. Both of them could be translated as miracle workers. Some (and few of them) are open in their powers and try to draw crowds to fulfill their objectives. Some are more working in the shadows, for the good of the people.
Oracles have some spellcasting power related to an aspect of a divinity but don't always have a purpose: some use it for themselves, or for the goals they decide to set.
I would see the paladins as having a mission. They are not within the church, like inquisitors, but in direct and personal relationship with a god (at least it's what they think they are).

Does it make sense to you?


Llaelian wrote:


In that sense, I would put the paladins (with or without spellcasting) in a similar bunch as oracles. Both of them could be translated as miracle workers. Some (and few of them) are open in their powers and try to draw crowds to fulfill their objectives. Some are more working in the shadows, for the good of the people.
Oracles have some spellcasting power related to an aspect of a divinity but don't always have a purpose: some use it for themselves, or for the goals they decide to set.
I would see the paladins as having a mission. They are not within the church, like inquisitors, but in direct and personal relationship with a god (at least it's what they think they are).

Does it make sense to you?

Works for me... run with it.

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I wouldn't mind throwing my hat in...

Name: Diego Dellarillos
Class: Sorcerer
Race:Human
Alignment: Neutral Good

Background:
Diego grew up in small village as the third son of a blacksmith, which made him the wandering son. When he turned 14, strange things began to happen around him: items would move, things would glow, frost would grow on the windows. He hid these powers as best he could, becoming quite good at disarming others with his personality. When he turned 18, he left home, never looking back.


Hymenopterix wrote:

OK guys,

so far i think the applicants are:
.
.
Shadewest: Rogue
Llaelian: Paladin / caster (sorcerer or oracle)
Face_P0lluti0n: Cavalier
DeathQuaker: Ranger
Cuchulain: Bard / Monk
Solarius (Akarius): Rogue / Fighter
Celestial Half-Porc: Barbarian
Bein'Meleth Ramaloce: Cavalier
Genesys: Cavalier

So (in no particular order):

3 Cavaliers
2 Rogues (sort of)
1 Ranger
1 Barbarian
1 Bard/Monk
1 Paladin/Caster

For a total of 9 applicants.

I'll wait for at least one more before making my decision. You've probably got more chance if you choose a class not covered yet so that we end up with a well balanced party! If anyone who's already applied wants to resubmit another character to increase their chances feel free (I'll prob only choose one cavalier at most! Cavaliers should do fine in this AP but we don't want too much doubling up) please use the same avatar so i know who's who.

Should have a list of the final five within 24 hours.

** spoiler omitted **

What is Starting Gold like? Just Gaging, I'm working on having the Character Completed shortly

*Edit* Also, If we have a Pure Rogue, I don't Mind doing straight Fighter, still with the Archer Varient, If chosen, of course :-)


Ok, all updated, Changed the background a bit, 100% ready for review, if you have any questions, or changed needed, let me know.

thanks for your time

Liberty's Edge

OK, my idea is for a human melee fighter (possibly one-handed fighter) that is the only living son of an impoverished and/or nearly extinct noble family. He sees the charter offered up by the Sword Lords (or their equivalent in your home-brew world) as a means to restore his family's name and a way to prove his worth in the new country and the old. He would currently be a professional soldier (likely low ranking officer) that would be mustering out of the standing armed forces to become a part of one of the teams sent to tame the wild lands.

'Andrei Kalishtov' would be strictly a martial (fighter) type, with a focus on athletic skills, survival, soldiering, and the perfection of his fighting skills with a blade.

Hymenopterix wrote:

OK guys,

so far i think the applicants are:
.
.
Shadewest: Rogue
Llaelian: Paladin / caster (sorcerer or oracle)
Face_P0lluti0n: Cavalier
DeathQuaker: Ranger
Cuchulain: Bard / Monk
Solarius (Akarius): Rogue / Fighter
Celestial Half-Porc: Barbarian
Bein'Meleth Ramaloce: Cavalier
Genesys: Cavalier

So (in no particular order):

3 Cavaliers
2 Rogues (sort of)
1 Ranger
1 Barbarian
1 Bard/Monk
1 Paladin/Caster

For a total of 9 applicants.

I'll wait for at least one more before making my decision. You've probably got more chance if you choose a class not covered yet so that we end up with a well balanced party! If anyone who's already applied wants to resubmit another character to increase their chances feel free (I'll prob only choose one cavalier at most! Cavaliers should do fine in this AP but we don't want too much doubling up) please use the same avatar so i know who's who.

Should have a list of the final five within 24 hours.

** spoiler omitted **


OK that's enough applications so please don't post any new ones.

A list of those selected will be up in a few hours along with a link to the discussion thread.

Cheers.


OK guys, so the final five are (in no particular order):

Shadewest (Rogue)
Llaelian (Paladin/Caster)
DeathQuaker (Ranger)
Cuchulain (Bard/Monk)
Bein'Meleth Ramaloce (Cavalier)

So if you guys'd like to head to the discussion thread and dot yourselves in that'd be great. I've posted a basic Geography, History and Race world fluff for you to use in backgrounds etc.

The decision was very difficult so i tried to choose based on synergy as well as background. For everyone who missed out you're welcome to lurk and if any spots open up you'll be the first in. - Sorry Guys!
(Make sure to check over the next few days especially in case someone no longer wants in)

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