Feather Tokens as "Tree Grenades"?


Rules Questions


PSRD wrote:
Tree: A token that causes a great oak to spring into being (5-foot-diameter trunk, 60-foot height, 40-foot top diameter). This is an instantaneous effect.

So, what happens if you activate one of these at the feet of an enemy?

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kelvingreen wrote:
PSRD wrote:
Tree: A token that causes a great oak to spring into being (5-foot-diameter trunk, 60-foot height, 40-foot top diameter). This is an instantaneous effect.
So, what happens if you activate one of these at the feet of an enemy?

Either (A) it fails to trigger properly and the item is wasted or (B) the enemy is shunted to a nearby square without provoking, possibly "squeezing" with any occupants.

You could make it provoke on (B), but that might be giving the player too much.


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I would give them a reflex save or they find themselves at the top of the tree. Not sure what the DC should be.
As a side note: we once had someone set one of them off after being swallowed whole. :)

Scarab Sages

Classic "Indiana Jones:Temple of Doom" scene, rope bridge, cut in middle, hanging off the side of a cliff, bad dudes below PC, pulls his trusty Feather Token and activates, drops tree upon the heads of some VERY surprised mooks. PC 9, Mooks 0.


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Bomanz wrote:
Classic "Indiana Jones:Temple of Doom" scene, rope bridge, cut in middle, hanging off the side of a cliff, bad dudes below PC, pulls his trusty Feather Token and activates, drops tree upon the heads of some VERY surprised mooks. PC 9, Mooks 0.

ROFL!

I second the notion that they would be on top of a tree.

I just made a bunch of these myself in our game and was just trying to think up creative uses.

I hope this thread gets a lot of attention.

Silver Crusade

I wonder....

Is the tree required to grow vertically?

Because I now have an awesome/hilarious fight scene going through my head involving feather tokens and a cliffside.


Shadrayl of the Mountain wrote:
As a side note: we once had someone set one of them off after being swallowed whole. :)

My other thought was whether it would be possible to use a sling or catapult to fire one at an opponent, then activating it in mid-air, so what started as a sling bullet ends up as a giant redwood.

Or, firing it into the mouth of an opponent...

Silver Crusade

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The Feather Token Tree is easily my favourite wondrous item.


I'd say they were on top of the tree too, yeah. But there are so many great uses for those...

Anti-ship charge, castle wall buster, instant cover for ranged rogues/vs. ranged attackers, wall in a tight dungeon corridor, fast elevator, potential catapult ammo (imagine an arrow fletched with feather tokens...), super-strong brace to keep the gate of a keep/city wall/etc. from being battered in...

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In Darkness Calls, Hellboy makes keen use of a feather token by tossing one at the feet of Koschei the Deathless while they are fighting. A small copse of trees springs up, and Koschei is impaled in the upper boughs quite painfully.

I somehow doubt my GM will be so liberal with its use! Hahaha =-)


I had some stuff planned for my group where a psychotic druid was using them to assassinate the government officials of a rapidly growing industrial city. He would shoot them from a bow, affixed to the head of the arrow, and then activate them (preferably in a public place with lots of visibility, terrorist style).

The result being a gory mess of shredded politician with a large tree emerging from his chest or abdomen. I thought it made a wonderful statement (as far as the druid goes, I mean).


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Foghammer wrote:

I had some stuff planned for my group where a psychotic druid was using them to assassinate the government officials of a rapidly growing industrial city. He would shoot them from a bow, affixed to the head of the arrow, and then activate them (preferably in a public place with lots of visibility, terrorist style).

The result being a gory mess of shredded politician with a large tree emerging from his chest or abdomen. I thought it made a wonderful statement (as far as the druid goes, I mean).

Don't you usually have to be in possession of a magic item to activate it?

Wouldn't that keep the arrow trick or sling trick from working?


kelvingreen wrote:
PSRD wrote:
Tree: A token that causes a great oak to spring into being (5-foot-diameter trunk, 60-foot height, 40-foot top diameter). This is an instantaneous effect.
So, what happens if you activate one of these at the feet of an enemy?

My dwarf paladin used one of these to take out a pesky flying invisible evil sorcerer one time. Detect evil to narrow down his location then - bam - your ash is mine.


Ravingdork wrote:
Foghammer wrote:

I had some stuff planned for my group where a psychotic druid was using them to assassinate the government officials of a rapidly growing industrial city. He would shoot them from a bow, affixed to the head of the arrow, and then activate them (preferably in a public place with lots of visibility, terrorist style).

The result being a gory mess of shredded politician with a large tree emerging from his chest or abdomen. I thought it made a wonderful statement (as far as the druid goes, I mean).

Don't you usually have to be in possession of a magic item to activate it?

Wouldn't that keep the arrow trick or sling trick from working?

Generally, I would agree. But I can't imagine why you want to active the tree feather token while you are in possession of it (EDIT: "This is an instantaneous effect."). It's command word activated. /shrug

I don't imagine a DM would ever allow players to do that, but it is a fairly expensive method of dealing death blows until higher levels, at which point I'm sure there are much better ways of doing it. Our groups tend to play lower levels however, so I don't see this becoming an issue with our group.


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I intend to hand one off to our party archer so he can create one at his feet to see farther, shoot from a relatively safe concealed location, and deter enemies from coming after him.

Heck, if you rule that the canopy forms first, and then rises, you could potentially lift the entire party out of harm's way.

"Fifteen birds in five fir trees,

Their feathers were fanned in a fiery breeze,

What funny little birds, they had no wings!

O what shall we do with the funny little things?

Roast 'em alive, or stew them in a pot;

Fry them, boil them and eat them hot?"

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