RedDogMT
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One of my old GMs gave us the option of rolling our stats on our own. I am an honest player and I could not resist 'rerolling' several times. I finally decided to wait until one of the other players was around. It's just too tempting.
The first and best rule a GM put in place is to have all rolls made in front of him/her...good or bad...and make zero exceptions.
| Spiral_Ninja |
Kingbreaker wrote:+1"i'll play a half-celestial drow noble monk"
*giggle*
I once had an idea for a totally out there character, half-[gold]dragon drow. I just loved the visual image but knew the character was uncreatable, unworkable and unplayable...so I made Xicara a very minor goddess in my homebrew. Never played, but I still get to use the image.
Since I *knew* the concept was unworkable I never offered it seriously in game. Pity Mr Expert player didn't realize the same.
| Gentleman Alligator |
Whenever I start a campaign, I hand the players a copy of my house rules, and at the beginning of the document is how I hand character creation. I put it in for this exact reason actually.
If one of my players were to come in and start to yell at me because I won't let him use the ability scores that no one saw him roll up, I would stand my ground and say, "I'm sorry, but I told you the rules and you choose to ignore them. You can either re-roll them in front of us, or you can not play." If you stand firm, usually the player will back down.
| wspatterson |
I'm running a game with 4 players and i talked with them and they agreed to roll stats. When they rolled they where 3 because the forth was working. After an hour the forth player came and he said he rolled stats and showed them to me. OMFG the stats where 17,17,16,16,15,12 and i said nice but as with other players i wanted him to roll in front of me. He then started screaming and yelling because i dint trusted him.(he plays dnd 16 years he is 32 years old, but he plays only rogue from back then and a friend of mine who was DMing a game with him told me that the same happened to his game with the stats thing.)
I think this happens because of my relative young age (21) compared to his years of experience. The other players are quiet on the matter but i think this behaviour of the rogue player shows lack of respect to the rules, the other players and the DM , and i'm sure more problems will come in the near future.
Should i be patient with this kind of players ? I tried to talk to him but he doesnt seem to hear me..... What should i do?
He might well have legitimately rolled those stats, but that is irrelevant. You told the players to roll stats in front of you and that is what should have happened. Now, if he'd just argued but kept to a civilized volume, thar would be one thing. If he actually did start screaming or yelling, that is something else entirely. The guy is 32; he shouldn't be acting like a child. I probably would have shown him the door and bid him good day. That kind of behavior shouldn't be tolerated and suggests bad things in the future.
| doctor_wu |
Still players with god like stats sort of kill the fun even at low levels when fighters do not suck. For example an elf fighter in 3.5 with 18 18 16 12 12 10 for stats he did 2d6+6 damage at like a greater than +5 bonus with a greatsword. My brother and other players then complained that the game was not as fun.
| Dosgamer |
You don't need godlike stats at low levels to do over-the-top damage as a two-handed weapon wielder. Level 1 barbarian with an 18 Strength wielding a falchion and raging and power attacking was still +6 to hit and did a whopping 2d4+12 damage (average 17) on a regular hit. The crits were overkill (sorry for the pun).
This is generally why I don't run two-handed weapon villains against level 1 PCs. They just seem to be more lethal than any other melee combatant.