Streamlining magic item sales


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How to?

I don't want to roll the items separately and look for prices etc. it's innecessarily complex. I was thinking about giving straight on X BP for minor, Y BP for medium and Z BP for major. Now as the BP gain is guaranteed the XYZ values can't be as high as they are normally.

Has anyone gone this way? I'd like to hear input on as what the values could be rather than going in blind.


Boogey wrote:

How to?

I don't want to roll the items separately and look for prices etc. it's innecessarily complex. I was thinking about giving straight on X BP for minor, Y BP for medium and Z BP for major. Now as the BP gain is guaranteed the XYZ values can't be as high as they are normally.

Has anyone gone this way? I'd like to hear input on as what the values could be rather than going in blind.

Well, the net effect of selling items through your economy should be greater than just taking it's value and converting it into BP (which is normally at the rate 4000gp -> 1 BP). If you go with about 2000gp -> 1BP we can look up the average values of items according to power:

Minor: 1000gp -> 1/2 BP
Medium: 10000gp -> 5 BP
Major: 40000gp -> 20 BP

Compare to the fixed values given in the AP as 2/8/15 respectively. To make things easier, I would err on the side of giving too much for the minor items (and avoid fractions) and too little for the major ones. In that case, we might just use:

Minor: 1 BP
Medium: 5 BP
Major: 10 BP

That said, I don't mind giving 2 BP for every minor item since kingdoms will generally have a tougher time at the outset than they will once major items can be sold easily.


Boogey wrote:

How to?

I don't want to roll the items separately and look for prices etc. it's innecessarily complex. I was thinking about giving straight on X BP for minor, Y BP for medium and Z BP for major. Now as the BP gain is guaranteed the XYZ values can't be as high as they are normally.

Has anyone gone this way? I'd like to hear input on as what the values could be rather than going in blind.

thats what your supposed to do

8 for a medium, 15 for a major

we dont bother rolling for the specific item anymore because

a) you can still roll low and get something worth not a lot, so it seems silly
b)you can roll insanely high and up end with an item ~125,000, that you sell at a bargain

so yeah, for the sake of speed and cutting out uneccsary stuff, dont roll for specific items, unless the party are flush with cash themselves and can afford a +5 sword.


Tem wrote:


*snip*

Minor: 1000gp -> 1/2 BP
Medium: 10000gp -> 5 BP
Major: 40000gp -> 20 BP

*snap*

How did you come up with these numbers? I haven't looked into in depth with random magic item values, but 1000gp for a minor seems a very high average value considering that they are mostly potions and other lame stuff.


Boogey wrote:
Tem wrote:


*snip*

Minor: 1000gp -> 1/2 BP
Medium: 10000gp -> 5 BP
Major: 40000gp -> 20 BP

*snap*

How did you come up with these numbers? I haven't looked into in depth with random magic item values, but 1000gp for a minor seems a very high average value considering that they are mostly potions and other lame stuff.

1000gp seems high for a minor, but Games Mastery guide random item tables p118, says:

Average values: minor, 1,000 gp; medium, 10,000 gp; major, 40,000 gp

even though a roll of 1 to 83 is gonna be at best level 2 or 3 potion or scroll


thenovalord wrote:
Boogey wrote:
Tem wrote:


*snip*

Minor: 1000gp -> 1/2 BP
Medium: 10000gp -> 5 BP
Major: 40000gp -> 20 BP

*snap*

How did you come up with these numbers? *snips*

1000gp seems high for a minor, but Games Mastery guide random item tables p118, says:

Average values: minor, 1,000 gp; medium, 10,000 gp; major, 40,000 gp

even though a roll of 1 to 83 is gonna be at best level 2 or 3 potion or scroll

Ah, right. Just found this http://www.dunknet.net/pathfinder.aspx and got average values for 100 rolled items as follows: minor 800gp, medium 9300gp and major 87000gp.

1k, 10k and 40k are what I'm going to have. They seem to be close enough even though the major may be a little off. BP values would be then 1/4 BP for minor, 2,5 BP for medium and 10 BP for major. I realize these are much lower than what origials are, but a little more challenging game is always fun.

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