
Marko |
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Can a druid shapeshift into a larger version of a creature in the bestiary?
An example would be the constrictor snake which is suggested to have larger versions.
The reason I ask is because a totem druid gets to wildshape as if they were level 8 druids when there at level 6 with animals of their totem, but for totem's like snakes there is only medium and tiny snakes in the bestiary. The constrictor entry says there are large and huge constrictors, but doesn't offer an entry.

wraithstrike |

I think by RAW you only get the base monsters in the book, but I would allow it as a DM for certain animals like snakes. In the 3.5 Monster Manual they pre-statted everything for you, but Paizo let a lot of that to the DM's now. I don't see them as an invalid concept just because Paizo has a more DM-based approach.
In short: Ask the DM

Dragorine |

Well it isn't like you wouldn't be getter their super better stats for being a larger size. If the bestiary says there are larger versions of these animals then there are. Why would they take up all that space for each size catagory if they just had rules in the back to tell you what it's stats would be.

wraithstrike |

Well it isn't like you wouldn't be getter their super better stats for being a larger size. If the bestiary says there are larger versions of these animals then there are. Why would they take up all that space for each size catagory if they just had rules in the back to tell you what it's stats would be.
It actually saves the DM time, but the book would be more expensive or we would have less monsters to use so they give 1 or 2 examples and it is up to the DM to make the rest of them. I just convert the MM ones to Pathfinder.

Dirlaise |

Can a druid shapeshift into a larger version of a creature in the bestiary?
An example would be the constrictor snake which is suggested to have larger versions.
The reason I ask is because a totem druid gets to wildshape as if they were level 8 druids when there at level 6 with animals of their totem, but for totem's like snakes there is only medium and tiny snakes in the bestiary. The constrictor entry says there are large and huge constrictors, but doesn't offer an entry.
The Bestiary tells you to advance the entry to 7 HD (for Large) or 14 HD (for Huge). They didn't bother to create an entry, but it's fairly intuitive to simply add the HD and other appropriate changes, then see what you have. The subsequent Wild Shape options are likewise intuitive.