
Freehold DM |

Bitter Thorn |

Nope, my friend's dad. He passed away a few years ago, unfortunately, but he still kept his long, flowing ponytail and bushy beard. The beard may have had more to do with Judaism, but he kept the ponytail. He was a serious journalist as well in his youth in college.
I miss serious journalism.

CourtFool |

Freehold DM wrote:Nope, my friend's dad. He passed away a few years ago, unfortunately, but he still kept his long, flowing ponytail and bushy beard. The beard may have had more to do with Judaism, but he kept the ponytail. He was a serious journalist as well in his youth in college.I miss serious journalism.
I miss serious Judaism.

yoda8myhead |

My future brother-in-law is entering college this year, and I have to say, most of these observations are inaccurate. Just because someone was born after a paradigm shift doesn't mean they don't recognize how things were before. Anyone who's ever had a history class knows that Russia did have nukes pointed at the US, even if they never grew up living in fear of nuclear armageddon. It's as if the authors of this piece think the class of 2014 is incapable of understanding any event that happened before their birth.

Freehold DM |

I did not take it quite so literally.
I'm sure you didn't, but a loooooot of people on newsvine and other areas I've seen this posted on did. People really need to relax.
Yoda, in terms of the fears of nuclear armageddon, what was it like for you? Me, I was raised on YEARS of WPIX Mad Max Beyond Thunderdome and Blood of Heroes and couldn't wait for the day the bombs dropped so I could live in the City of Kids or play post-apocalyptic psuedo football.
Of course, I was 7 at the time.

yoda8myhead |

I haven't read past years' lists, but it seems like they'd all be the same. I get the sense that the list exists to make old people feel nostalgic for times long past, and I'm not sure it succeeds. The incoming college class also never rode a horse-drawn carriage to school every day, nor chopped their own firewood to keep warm in the winter. They never feared that God would damn them with a case of the bubonic plague, or that they might not kill enough mastodons to feed their neanderthalic family. Every year, there is one more year of history a given class hasn't personally experienced. What's the point of listing the things they missed out on?
As for my experience in the Cold War, I never had any of the fears that children of the 50s or 60s lived with, but I vividly remember the fall of the Berlin Wall and dismantling of the USSR. I knew they were big deals, but didn't have the context until I was older and studying the historical implications in school. And I still sort of wish I could live in a post-apocalyptic world and start over, but then books like The Road change my mind and I'm glad we didn't nuke ourselves.

CourtFool |

I often see tradition bandied about as the gold standard.
I took the list as nothing more than a reflection back on how much has changed in the last few years. I giggled myself silly recently while watching Lethal Weapon…you know…the first one. When Murtaugh is talking on the 'portable phone'…the brick.

The 8th Dwarf |

Russia did have nukes pointed at the US, even if they never grew up living in fear of nuclear armageddon. It's as if the authors of this piece think the class of 2014 is incapable of understanding any event that happened before their birth.
I know you have did in italics - but I just want to stress Both the US and Russia have a Nukes pointed at each other..... & throw into the Mix England, France, and China
Then there are the countries that have them and are most likley to use them.
Israel, Pakistan, India, North Korea, and very soon Iran...
It is no wonder that the Doomsday clock has been set to — six minutes to midnight — on 14 January 2010.

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yoda8myhead wrote:Russia did have nukes pointed at the US, even if they never grew up living in fear of nuclear armageddon. It's as if the authors of this piece think the class of 2014 is incapable of understanding any event that happened before their birth.I know you have did in italics - but I just want to stress Both the US and Russia have a Nukes pointed at each other..... & throw into the Mix England, France, and China
Then there are the countries that have them and are most likley to use them.
Israel, Pakistan, India, North Korea, and very soon Iran...
It is no wonder that the Doomsday clock has been set to — six minutes to midnight — on 14 January 2010.

Samnell |

Do you realize that it never gets more than 10 minutes from midnight? It's like a speedometer that only reads 90-100.
The clock was at 12 in 1963 after the Partial Test Ban Treaty (the Cuban Missile Crisis famously arose and passed so quickly that the magazine didn't have an issue out in time) and again in 1972 for SALT1 and the Anti-Ballistic Missile Tready. It went to 17 in 1991 for the Strategic Arms Reduction Treaty and only dropped back to 14 in 1995 as Cold War levels of military spending more or less continued and joined with concerns about missing Russian nukes and brainpower.