According to the rules, a RoC can "[attach] itself securely wherever its owner desires". Does this mean that it could, for example, affix itself to a flat surface, without needing to knot itself to something?
How about attaching itself to a point in mid-air?
I don't see why not allowing it on a flat surface, as there is actually something to attach to. But just because it says 'wherever the owner desires', I would not allow just air. There would have to be something substantial to attach it to, however small the surface or object is.
While it doesn't explicitly say so, I believe that the intent is that the rope ties itself onto something that it CAN be tied to. In fact, it further says "It can unfasten itself and return in the same manner." If it were merely 'sticking' to a flat surface like a wet spaghetti noodle, then it would 'unstick' itself rather than "unfasten" itself.
So maybe the item description suffers from poor word choice, but I believe that in order to "unfasten" it must first be "fastened", and since there is no text to suggest that the rope is unusually sticky, gooey, viscous, tacky, or otherwise capable of adhering to any surface, I do not believe the idea was to let it simply stick to something without "fastening" itself (i.e. tying a knot).
Any other opinions?
I voted for sticking to anything that is solid, while my DM voted for "needs to tie a knot".
We need some consensus!
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Any other opinions?
I voted for sticking to anything that is solid, while my DM voted for "needs to tie a knot".
We need some consensus!
I vote for the rope actually tieing itself around something. Simply sticking to something seems silly. And since I never get to play, I only ever GM, thats coming from me as a GM. And even as a player, I wouldn't try to get away with something like that.
Looks like you've already solved this one. Your DM told you how it works. That's pretty final, isn't it?
I vote for the rope actually tieing itself around something. Simply sticking to something seems silly. And since I never get to play, I only ever GM, thats coming from me as a GM. And even as a player, I wouldn't try to get away with something like that.Any other opinions?
I voted for sticking to anything that is solid, while my DM voted for "needs to tie a knot".
We need some consensus!
Well, it's a magic item, anything is possible. So don't think it's necessarily silly if it sticks to something.
But I agree with DM Blake, there is no question anymore as it sounds like the DM has ruled.
Our DM is open to someone who knows the rules better than us to let us know how the "Rope of Climbing" is intended to work...so nothing is final, haha.
That's why I'm posting here...to get moar opinions.
It says: 'attaching itself securely wherever its owner desires'.
So using the normal and ordinary usage of the words i interpret that as saying that it must be able to securely attach itself to something.
How would you normally securely attach something? With a knot.
There's no other way.
Unless of course you attach a grappling hook to the RoC, then it would be able to 'attach itself securely' to any perpendicular surface.
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It says: 'attaching itself securely wherever its owner desires'.
So using the normal and ordinary usage of the words i interpret that as saying that it must be able to securely attach itself to something.
How would you normally securely attach something? With a knot.
There's no other way.
Unless of course you attach a grappling hook to the RoC, then it would be able to 'attach itself securely' to any perpendicular surface.
+1
I think someone around here is just hellbent on turning the RoC into a long wet spaghetti noodle.
Any other opinions?
I voted for sticking to anything that is solid, while my DM voted for "needs to tie a knot".
We need some consensus!
*twitch*
If the intent of this item were to allow it to be attached magically to any surface like a suction cup, I'm fairly certain it would be more explicit about that. Coupled with Blake's points on the phrasing of the text, I'd say we can definitely and safely assume it's not intended to automatically glue itself to ceilings with no physical anchor point.
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Any other opinions?
I voted for sticking to anything that is solid, while my DM voted for "needs to tie a knot".
We need some consensus!
*twitch*
If the intent of this item were to allow it to be attached magically to any surface like a suction cup, I'm fairly certain it would be more explicit about that. Coupled with Blake's points on the phrasing of the text, I'd say we can definitely and safely assume it's not intended to automatically glue itself to ceilings with no physical anchor point.
Again..... +1