Ok, it's taken *me* a while to get all of this in place, but I *think* I've finally found the perfect set of classes to get the best synergy to create the bane of all existence, "the magical fighty-type" of character. I'm using both PF and 3.5 sources to do this, and it's a mix and match sort of thing, BUT I've figured out exactly how to do it. Any 3.5 classes would be "pathfinderized" to be used w/the PF standards, though (mostly just HD tied to bab, etc).
Fighter - 2, Swashbuckler - 3, Transmuter - 1, Abjurant Champion - 5, Bladesinger - 4, Elderich Knight - 5
Total bab = +19
Total HD = 19d10 + 1d6
Max Spell Level = 7th {13 caster levels in this build}
Total caster level = 19th {martial arcanist class feature where caster level = bab for 1 class [transmuter in this case] via Abjurant Champion}
Fort Save = +12 / Ref Save = +8 / Will Save = +12
I'm not getting into feats much, but I will say that 3.5's Arcane Strike is preferable for this build.
This is no kit/gear involved, just pure class selection, and not even messing with feats - it's pretty rock-solid for the concept.
Fighter and EK levels can bring some feats to get wpn specialization and melee weapon mastery (assuming a melee build). (+3 to hit and +4 to damage respectively)
3.5's Arcane Strike can burn a 7th level slot as a free action to get a +7 to hit and +7d4 damage for 7 rounds.
Abj. Champions Arcane Boost quality can use a swift action to burn a spell slot to gain x2 of that spell level in damage. So, burn a 5th slot to pick up an additional +10 to damage.
Key abilities to the build: Dexterity, and Intelligence, probably followed by Con.
This may have already been kit-bashed on some other 3.x boards, but I've never seen it, and I figured it's always fun to share a fun build w/people, so yeah ... there you go. Best possible end result w/classes from all versions to try and make the best possible fit for the build/concept of the "martial arcane fighter" or whatever. Trading 1 point of BAB and 2 spell level accesses to gain a +19 caster level is pretty potent, IMO.
I would rather do spellsword 5 instead of blade singer 4, drop a level of fighter. Still caster level 13, BAB 19...but spell channeling is awefully fun...and can be "broken" when used to spell channel AMF or hell even the fog spells/sleet storm.
True - I wasn't looking at that class, though, on account of the Armor features really not being something that synergizes well with the Abj. Champ stuff, though. I figured w/the AC boon of Bladesinger, it was the better option.
Fully possible that there may be "better" options, too, though. I just figured this one out and was really surprised/amazed at the potency.
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I would rather do spellsword 5 instead of blade singer 4, drop a level of fighter. Still caster level 13, BAB 19...but spell channeling is awefully fun...and can be "broken" when used to spell channel AMF or hell even the fog spells/sleet storm.True - I wasn't looking at that class, though, on account of the Armor features really not being something that synergizes well with the Abj. Champ stuff, though. I figured w/the AC boon of Bladesinger, it was the better option.
Fully possible that there may be "better" options, too, though. I just figured this one out and was really surprised/amazed at the potency.
Well you have to remember that the abjurant champion only increases shield, not mage armor. Mithral breast plate is quite nice to have with no ASF.
No - Abj Champ works with any spell that grants an Armor or Shield bonus, actually. It works just fine on Mage Armor and the like.
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No - Abj Champ works with any spell that grants an Armor or Shield bonus, actually. It works just fine on Mage Armor and the like.
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No, it works with any ABJURATION spell that grants an Armor or Shield bonus (and Mage Armor is conjuration, NOT abjuration). Which, if you are doing PF spells only, is Shield, and the only Armor one I can think of is the Luminous Armor spells from Book of Exalted Deeds (and it's obviously not PF).