Does an require a standard or full round action to draw and drink?


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Plain and simple, I've read other threads on this and still no clear answer, at this point we know what the book says, we know there are multiple interpretations, and an official answer would be nice.

I'm not really looking for opinions, just wondering if anyone has seen a clear cut statement from one of the developers on this issue. I've looked though the forums and haven't seen one but I'm hoping someone out there has and can point me to it.

I really don't want to rehash any arguments over is it a potion or a spell and does it take a move action to draw, those threads are out there and no one can agree. Just looking for a clarification so I can play my class without wondering if I'm mistaken in my interpretation. I'm not gonna even say which way I lean because it doesn't matter.

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Just for clarification it would never be a full round action. It is a move action to remove it from a pack and a standard action to quaff it. Seems like splitting hairs but it affects a lot of things like attack of opportunity and whether you can have an extract in hand at the start of a round.

Some other oddball thoughts, assuming (as the rules suggest) it's as if you are using a potion the person drinking the extract:

  • Can't 'cast' defensively to avoid an attack of opportunity.
  • Can never apply metamagic feats or rods to extracts
  • Never needs a concentration check to 'cast' including: when deafened, while you are burning, or taking on going damage, grappled (only extracts in hand), 'distracted'
  • Can drink extracts even if incapable of preparing them due to ability damage or other impairing effect (14 INT not required to quaff an extract of restoration)

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    Also, since the barbarian has been mentioned in another conversation

  • Alchemists can quaff while raging


  • Isn't anything drawn from a belt pouch (such as a potion) a free action to do so?


    Dork Lord wrote:
    Isn't anything drawn from a belt pouch (such as a potion) a free action to do so?

    Not according to Table 8-2, Actions in Combat, on page 183 of the Core rulebook.

    Retrieving a stored item such as drawing a potion from a belt pouch, etc., is a move action that provokes AoO.

    Liberty's Edge

    DM_Blake wrote:
    Dork Lord wrote:
    Isn't anything drawn from a belt pouch (such as a potion) a free action to do so?

    Not according to Table 8-2, Actions in Combat, on page 183 of the Core rulebook.

    Retrieving a stored item such as drawing a potion from a belt pouch, etc., is a move action that provokes AoO.

    Which makes hand haversacks a great tool for an alchemist, as they remove the AoO for retrieving an item.

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    StabbittyDoom wrote:
    Which makes hand haversacks a great tool for an alchemist, as they remove the AoO for retrieving an item.

    So quaffing only provokes one AoO not 2. Still a great item but *shrug*.

    Scarab Sages

    Dork Lord wrote:
    Isn't anything drawn from a belt pouch (such as a potion) a free action to do so?

    There was an item in the FR world called a potion belt that allowed you to draw a potion as a free action. There is no such item currently available in PFS or regular Golarion play.


    William Sinclair wrote:
    Dork Lord wrote:
    Isn't anything drawn from a belt pouch (such as a potion) a free action to do so?
    There was an item in the FR world called a potion belt that allowed you to draw a potion as a free action. There is no such item currently available in PFS or regular Golarion play.

    Maybe that's what I was thinking of. I could have sworn that belt pouches were special in 3.5 in that way.


    Dork Lord wrote:
    William Sinclair wrote:
    Dork Lord wrote:
    Isn't anything drawn from a belt pouch (such as a potion) a free action to do so?
    There was an item in the FR world called a potion belt that allowed you to draw a potion as a free action. There is no such item currently available in PFS or regular Golarion play.
    Maybe that's what I was thinking of. I could have sworn that belt pouches were special in 3.5 in that way.

    Potion belt is great if your allowed non pathfinder. But i'm thinking more in line with pathfinder only

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    MundinIronHand wrote:
    Dork Lord wrote:
    William Sinclair wrote:
    Dork Lord wrote:
    Isn't anything drawn from a belt pouch (such as a potion) a free action to do so?
    There was an item in the FR world called a potion belt that allowed you to draw a potion as a free action. There is no such item currently available in PFS or regular Golarion play.
    Maybe that's what I was thinking of. I could have sworn that belt pouches were special in 3.5 in that way.
    Potion belt is great if your allowed non pathfinder. But i'm thinking more in line with pathfinder only

    My GM lets me use spring loaded wrist sheaths from Adventurers Armory. You can only use 2 but that's not a huge problem. The adventurers bandolier also from AA also makes items 'easier' to access. That one is a little less clear but Russ (who wrote the item) says it was intended to allow access similar to drawing a weapon which would mean as part of a move action.

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    0gre wrote:


    My GM lets me use spring loaded wrist sheaths from Adventurers Armory. You can only use 2 but that's not a huge problem. The adventurers bandolier also from AA also makes items 'easier' to access. That one is a little less clear but Russ (who wrote the item) says it was intended to allow access similar to drawing a weapon which would mean as part of a move action.

    Ok, I haven't seen either of those in Adventurer's Armory... So, if they are in there, what page, if not, what book did you mean? I know I've seen them, but I can't remember where. Thanks.

    Dark Archive

    A Glove of Storing would be a great thing also.

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