Elven Curve Blade and Finesse?


Rules Questions

Silver Crusade

The PRD on the Paizo site says:

Paizo wrote:

Weapon Finesse (Combat)

You are trained in using your agility in melee combat, as opposed to brute strength.

Benefit: With a light weapon, rapier, whip, or spiked chain made for a creature of your size category, you may use your Dexterity modifier instead of your Strength modifier on attack rolls. If you carry a shield, its armor check penalty applies to your attack rolls.

Special: Natural weapons are considered light weapons.

The SRD on the d20pfsrd site says:

d20pfsrd wrote:

Weapon Finesse (Combat)

You are trained in using your agility in melee combat, as opposed to brute strength.

Benefit: With a light weapon, elven curve blade, rapier, whip, or spiked chain made for a creature of your size category, you may use your Dexterity modifier instead of your Strength modifier on attack rolls. If you carry a shield, its armor check penalty applies to your attack rolls.

Special: Natural weapons are considered light weapons.

(emphasis mine)

Which is correct? Unfortunately, I have not yet acquired a hard copy of the rulebook.


Elven curve blade is indeed finessable. Look into the weapon description if all else fails.

Liberty's Edge

Andrew Besso wrote:

The PRD on the Paizo site says:

Paizo wrote:

Weapon Finesse (Combat)

You are trained in using your agility in melee combat, as opposed to brute strength.

Benefit: With a light weapon, rapier, whip, or spiked chain made for a creature of your size category, you may use your Dexterity modifier instead of your Strength modifier on attack rolls. If you carry a shield, its armor check penalty applies to your attack rolls.

Special: Natural weapons are considered light weapons.

The SRD on the d20pfsrd site says:

d20pfsrd wrote:

Weapon Finesse (Combat)

You are trained in using your agility in melee combat, as opposed to brute strength.

Benefit: With a light weapon, elven curve blade, rapier, whip, or spiked chain made for a creature of your size category, you may use your Dexterity modifier instead of your Strength modifier on attack rolls. If you carry a shield, its armor check penalty applies to your attack rolls.

Special: Natural weapons are considered light weapons.

(emphasis mine)

Which is correct? Unfortunately, I have not yet acquired a hard copy of the rulebook.

Not sure what the real question here was, but you CAN use Weapon Finesse with an Elven Curve Blade.

Silver Crusade

overdark wrote:
Andrew Besso wrote:

The PRD on the Paizo site says:

Paizo wrote:

Weapon Finesse (Combat)

You are trained in using your agility in melee combat, as opposed to brute strength.

Benefit: With a light weapon, rapier, whip, or spiked chain made for a creature of your size category, you may use your Dexterity modifier instead of your Strength modifier on attack rolls. If you carry a shield, its armor check penalty applies to your attack rolls.

Special: Natural weapons are considered light weapons.

The SRD on the d20pfsrd site says:

d20pfsrd wrote:

Weapon Finesse (Combat)

You are trained in using your agility in melee combat, as opposed to brute strength.

Benefit: With a light weapon, elven curve blade, rapier, whip, or spiked chain made for a creature of your size category, you may use your Dexterity modifier instead of your Strength modifier on attack rolls. If you carry a shield, its armor check penalty applies to your attack rolls.

Special: Natural weapons are considered light weapons.

(emphasis mine)

Which is correct? Unfortunately, I have not yet acquired a hard copy of the rulebook.

Not sure what the real question here was, but you CAN use Weapon Finesse with an Elven Curve Blade.

That is the answer to the real question. Evidently the PRD on Paizo's web page contains a typo in the description of the weapon finesse feat.


I was under the impression it had been errata'd out of being finesseable.


Not in the official errata V. 2.0.


Dabbler wrote:
I was under the impression it had been errata'd out of being finesseable.

I checked my hardcopy Pathfinder RPG Core Rulebook (First Printing) and it doesn't list the Elven Curve Blade in Weapon Finesse description but does say in the description for the sword itself that it works with Weapon Finesse.

I checked the PRD. It has the exact same conflict. Feat doesn't mention the weapon, but weapon mentions the feat.

I checked the PDF of Pathfinder RPG Core Rulebook (Third Printing) and again, the feat doesn't mention the weapon but the weapon says it works with the feat.

As of the third printing (which contains errata), the weapon's ability to work with Weapon Finesse had not been removed.

My guess is that the PRD is always kept matching the Core Rulebook, and the Core Rulebook omits the weapon from the Weapon Finesse description. As to why? I'd say the Weapon Finesse description didn't change between Pathfinder RPG and its old OGL 3.5e description. (It was an editorial oversight.) The third-party SRDs for Pathfinder do list it in the feat's description because they're not verbatim copies of the material from the print product.

Unless someone says otherwise, specific item description trumps feat description and the Elven Curve Blade does work with Weapon Finesse.


Really though, even if the feat description never changes to include Elven Curve Blade, the item description lists the feat. This is no different than if the item had appeared in a later supplement and said it worked with the feat.

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