Well I am looking to purpose to my GM a new melee weapon. One that has weapon finesse and reach.
I am more than capable to create the stats for such a weapon, but I can't think of any weapon to fit the flavor. So I am asking for your weapon trivia.
I know realistically about any weapon can use weapon finesse, but I need to find a weapon in history or near history that would most likely have these traits.
So any ideas?
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Well I am looking to purpose to my GM a new melee weapon. One that has weapon finesse and reach.
I am more than capable to create the stats for such a weapon, but I can't think of any weapon to fit the flavor. Do I am asking for your weapon trivia.
I know realistically about any weapon can use weapon finesse, but I need to find a weapon in history or near history that would most likely have these traits.
So any ideas?
Elven curveblade on a stick?
Elven curveblade on a stick?Well I am looking to purpose to my GM a new melee weapon. One that has weapon finesse and reach.
I am more than capable to create the stats for such a weapon, but I can't think of any weapon to fit the flavor. Do I am asking for your weapon trivia.
I know realistically about any weapon can use weapon finesse, but I need to find a weapon in history or near history that would most likely have these traits.
So any ideas?
Funny! But this is not the Ren Fair.
so if i understand right, you have the properties of the weapon but you want to connect them to a real world weapon?
if this is right i need to think about it a bit, i will look up some weapons from history that they might work with.
The Kusari-gama was a light weapon with reach, but I'd change it to a two handed weapon with Finesse and reach (for balance issues). Something like:
Kusari-gama (Exotic, Two-handed), cost 50 Gp, 1d6/19-20 X2, reach, disarm trip, Piercing, slashing, or bludgeoning, you can use this weapon to attack melee opponents, you only threaten your natural reach. You can apply weapon finesse to this weapon.
The Kusari-gama was a light weapon with reach, but I'd change it to a two handed weapon with Finesse and reach (for balance issues). Something like:
Kusari-gama (Exotic, Two-handed), cost 50 Gp, 1d6/19-20 X2, reach, disarm trip, Piercing, slashing, or bludgeoning, you can use this weapon to attack melee opponents, you only threaten your natural reach. You can apply weapon finesse to this weapon.
OOOh good choice.
P.S. Put personally I don't see any problem with it threatening both reach and beside you.
However ideally I don't care about adjacent targets and threatening.
Question, is the Scorpion Whip Finesseable?
Question, is the Scorpion Weapon Finesseable?If you meant scorpion whip, then yes. Though it is a one-handed weapon, you can still use the Weapon Finesse feat with it.
Source Adventurer's Armory 4, Legacy of Fire Player's Guide 22
DescriptionThis whip has a series of razorsharp blades and fangs inset along its tip. It deals lethal damage, even to creatures with armor bonuses. If you are proficient with whips, you can use a scorpion whip.
It isn't very clear about its statistics of the weapon. It doesn't say it functions like a whip, or that it is finesseable.
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This whip has a series of razorsharp blades and fangs inset along its tip. It deals lethal damage, even to creatures with armor bonuses. If you are proficient with whips, you can use a scorpion whip.
It isn't very clear about its statistics of the weapon. It doesn't say it functions like a whip, or that it is finesseable.
I bolded the important parts.
More statistics of the weapon can be found on this chart.
This whip has a series of razorsharp blades and fangs inset along its tip. It deals lethal damage, even to creatures with armor bonuses. If you are proficient with whips, you can use a scorpion whip.
It isn't very clear about its statistics of the weapon. It doesn't say it functions like a whip, or that it is finesseable.
I bolded the important parts.
More statistics of the weapon can be found on this chart.
So it is better than a whip in every way for no extra feat?
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When it comes to killing things it's certainly better. Beating a slave with one or driving an animal with one could get costly, however. I guess it comes down to flavor and function.
The bard character I'm playing in my regular game recently picked up a whip. I considered getting the scorpion whip, because...well, yeah...because you can deal lethal damage. In the end, I ditched the idea and he just picked up a regular whip because the image of him carrying around a razor-studded whip didn't seem to fit the character.
When it comes to killing things it's certainly better. Beating a slave with one or driving an animal with one could get costly, however. I guess it comes down to flavor and function.
The bard character I'm playing in my regular game recently picked up a whip. I considered getting the scorpion whip, because...well, yeah...because you can deal lethal damage. In the end, I ditched the idea and he just picked up a regular whip because the image of him carrying around a razor-studded whip didn't seem to fit the character.
Thanks! This helped a lot. I have a size tiny cohort that is sooo getting this.
LOL I clicked on the wrong thread forum and I am just realizing this now! Sorry to bother all of you.
I would lean towards no its not treated as a whip other than it shares proficency. They appear to have (even post Armory errata) intentionally left out the 'in all other ways treat this weapon as a whip line' that existed in its 3.5 description.
The line "this WHIP" isn't specific enough? I'd say if it looks like a whip, smells like a whip, uses the whip proficiency and is, you know, a whip, then it's a whip.