Nonundead incorporeal creatuers and antimagic field

[Dreaming Psion]

I was wondering about how antimagic field works against incorporeal creatures that are not undead. It says "Summoned creatures or incorporeal undead wink out if they enter an antimagic field." What about incorporeal creatures that are not undead? Are incorporeal non-undead unaffected by the antimagic field and thus immune to harm while in the area of the field?

[knightofstyx]

By a strict reading of RAW, that seems to be the case. However, since every single incorporeal creature I can think of is undead or has to use magic/supernatural abilities to become incorporeal, I think it is a moot point.

I think RAI are for incorporeal creatures to wink out in the antimagic field. My logic for this is that incorporeal undead wink out. It's not because they are undead that they wink out. It's because they are incorporeal.

[Dreaming Psion]

knightofstyx wrote:

By a strict reading of RAW, that seems to be the case. However, since every single incorporeal creature I can think of is undead or has to use magic/supernatural abilities to become incorporeal, I think it is a moot point.

I think RAI are for incorporeal creatures to wink out in the antimagic field. My logic for this is that incorporeal undead wink out. It's not because they are undead that they wink out. It's because they are incorporeal.

There is the shadow demon (an outsider), but the main reason I ask is because I have one player using a Psion who wants to take the Uncarnate prestige class. At 10th level it gets to be incorporeal full time as an Extraordinary quality. Mostly I'm just wanting to know if there's any potential (if unlikely) pitfalls with it that might come up later.

[james maissen]

Dreaming Psion wrote:

Are incorporeal non-undead unaffected by the antimagic field and thus immune to harm while in the area of the field?

I would remove the requirement of a magic weapon to harm an incorporeal in an anti-magic field.

Beyond that I do believe that the idea would be that incorporeal cannot occur in antimagic, but that's another kettle of fish.

-James

[Remco Sommeling]

I'd think in those cases either they wink out like undead or can be hit by non-magical weapons.

Shadow Demon I'd say they become more solid and thus can be hit by non-magical weapons, probably the same for the Uncarnate.

[WWWW]

I recall that in 3.5 there was a weapon material that gave the ghost touch property to weapons made out of it. And then of course there were ways to cast things into and inside antimagic fields.