Monk and Greater Trip


Pathfinder First Edition General Discussion


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On Mar 7, 2010 James Jacob stated that Monk's required Int 13 to pickup Greater Trip and that just because they didn't need all the pre-reqs for the lesser version, didn't mean they didn't need it for the greater version.
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But in the NPC Gallery (pg. 275) in the GameMastery Guide, the level 15 Master Monk has Greater Trip and a 10 Int. Is this a mistake in the NPC entry or a change in policy?

Silver Crusade

SuperSheep wrote:

On Mar 7, 2010 James Jacob stated that Monk's required Int 13 to pickup Greater Trip and that just because they didn't need all the pre-reqs for the lesser version, didn't mean they didn't need it for the greater version.

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But in the NPC Gallery (pg. 275) in the GameMastery Guide, the level 15 Master Monk has Greater Trip and a 10 Int. Is this a mistake in the NPC entry or a change in policy?

The way I read the rules, the monk does not need to meet the prerequisites only if he selects a feat as a bonus fest. Greater Trip is not available as a bonus feat, so the monk needs to meet the prerequisites. I have heard other players say (complain?) that the pregenerated characters do not always adhere to the rules. Oddly enough, a sixth level monk might take Combat Expertise as a bonus feat, but the same monk might not be able to take Combat Expertise at seventh level because s/he does not meet the requirements.

Here is what the SRD says:
"Bonus Feat: At 1st level, 2nd level, and every 4 levels thereafter, a monk may select a bonus feat. These feats must be taken from the following list: Catch Off-Guard, Combat Reflexes, Deflect Arrows, Dodge, Improved Grapple, Scorpion Style, and Throw Anything. At 6th level, the following feats are added to the list: Gorgon's Fist, Improved Bull Rush, Improved Disarm, Improved Feint, Improved Trip, and Mobility. At 10th level, the following feats are added to the list: Improved Critical, Medusa's Wrath, Snatch Arrows, and Spring Attack. A monk need not have any of the prerequisites normally required for these feats to select them."

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