If the SLA mimics an actual spell, use the level of that spell. If it's a spell that more than one class can cast, use the level of the most appropriate class (ie, cleric over paladin).
If the SLA does not mimic an actual spell, and there's no guidance in the stat block for what effective level it is ... it needs errata. All of the cleric, wizard, and sorcerer level 1 abilities that are SLAs are treated as level 1 spells, for the record, but if there's anything else that doesn't have a listed level, it needs to be brought to Paizo's attention.
In your example, the Concentration DC would be 23 (15 + 2*4).
ALL spell-like abilities use Charisma as their key ability score.
Going forward, we include concentration check modifiers in stat blocks—this is something we didn't do in the Bestiary, but are doing in current products (and will do in future Bestiaries).
For monsters, yeah, but rogue minor magic SLA uses int. Would a rogue's concentration check to use it also use Int?
For monsters, yeah, but rogue minor magic SLA uses int. Would a rogue's concentration check to use it also use Int?ALL spell-like abilities use Charisma as their key ability score.
Going forward, we include concentration check modifiers in stat blocks—this is something we didn't do in the Bestiary, but are doing in current products (and will do in future Bestiaries).
Yes.
So it's Cha plus ? what? Hit dice, character level?
This is the number two reason why I wished PF kept the Concentration skill.
So it's Cha plus ? what? Hit dice, character level?
This is the number two reason why I wished PF kept the Concentration skill.
Lillends have a listed caster level IIRC, so you can use that. Otherwise, I'd default to HD.
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So it's Cha plus ? what? Hit dice, character level?
This is the number two reason why I wished PF kept the Concentration skill.
Charisma plus caster level. All monsters who have spell-like abilities have a caster level listed.
And again... going forward we'll be listing every single monster's concentration checks in their stats—we're already doing that in our adventures and current products.
So it's Cha plus ? what? Hit dice, character level?
This is the number two reason why I wished PF kept the Concentration skill.
Charisma plus caster level. All monsters who have spell-like abilities have a caster level listed.
And again... going forward we'll be listing every single monster's concentration checks in their stats—we're already doing that in our adventures and current products.
Thank you for that. Now that I see it I feel kind of foolish for not figuring that out on my own.