Adamantite Weapons

[Xum]

So, adamantite states that it ignores hardness of 20 or less... so, does that mean that hardness of 21 is applied in full? If so, isn't it... crappy?

On a side note, anything that is "Sunderable" should be breakable, how would we know the break DC of a Forcecage for instance?

[DM_Blake]

Xum wrote:

So, adamantite states that it ignores hardness of 20 or less... so, does that mean that hardness of 21 is applied in full? If so, isn't it... crappy?

I own a very nice steel knife.

It can cut through butter like, well, like butter. It can cut through bread very easily. It can cut cloth very easily. It can cut leather, but takes just a bit of work. It can cut through wood, but I have to work at it. It can even cut through iron, but it will take a very long time and ruin the blade.

But it cannot cut through steel no matter how hard I try. And it definitely cannot cut through titanium, or diamonds.

It's not like being made of a good material reduces the hardness of everything you try to cut/sunder. Either your blade is capable of going through the material you're cutting, or it isn't. And if it isn't, then its quality of workmanship/material doesn't really change that fact.

[Scipion del Ferro]

While there is no DC listed to break a Forcecage or Wall of Force it has to be higher then DC 50. That is the DC to break through a hewn stone wall and a Wall of Force is even stronger then that.

[Xum]

DM_Blake wrote:

Xum wrote:

So, adamantite states that it ignores hardness of 20 or less... so, does that mean that hardness of 21 is applied in full? If so, isn't it... crappy?

I own a very nice steel knife.

It can cut through butter like, well, like butter. It can cut through bread very easily. It can cut cloth very easily. It can cut leather, but takes just a bit of work. It can cut through wood, but I have to work at it. It can even cut through iron, but it will take a very long time and ruin the blade.

But it cannot cut through steel no matter how hard I try. And it definitely cannot cut through titanium, or diamonds.

It's not like being made of a good material reduces the hardness of everything you try to cut/sunder. Either your blade is capable of going through the material you're cutting, or it isn't. And if it isn't, then its quality of workmanship/material doesn't really change that fact.

Hummm you do have a point there. But isn't it odd that when it come to say... a magical adamantite wall, if you have a wooden sword and an adamantite one, the dificulty is the same?

[kyrt-ryder]

Xum wrote:

DM_Blake wrote:

Xum wrote:

So, adamantite states that it ignores hardness of 20 or less... so, does that mean that hardness of 21 is applied in full? If so, isn't it... crappy?

I own a very nice steel knife.

It can cut through butter like, well, like butter. It can cut through bread very easily. It can cut cloth very easily. It can cut leather, but takes just a bit of work. It can cut through wood, but I have to work at it. It can even cut through iron, but it will take a very long time and ruin the blade.

But it cannot cut through steel no matter how hard I try. And it definitely cannot cut through titanium, or diamonds.

It's not like being made of a good material reduces the hardness of everything you try to cut/sunder. Either your blade is capable of going through the material you're cutting, or it isn't. And if it isn't, then its quality of workmanship/material doesn't really change that fact.

Hummm you do have a point there. But isn't it odd that when it come to say... a magical adamantite wall, if you have a wooden sword and an adamantite one, the dificulty is the same?

It IS weird, but the rules are often weird in areas like these.

If your the GM, you could always just houserule that Adamantine weapons ignore 10 hardness on anything that they cut, but of course that's houserules.