Blades for Rogues - Switchblades and Butterfly Knives


Pathfinder First Edition General Discussion

Scarab Sages

I recently bought the Adventurer's Armory and was pleased to see listing for three items: 1) bladed boot, 2) butterfly knife, and 3) switchblade. I have a rouge and all three items seem like perfect items for a rogue to have. Unfortunately, the bladed boot and switchblade are martial weapons and the butterfly knife is an exotic weapon.

I don't want to take a level of fighter for my rogue simply to gain the martial weapon proficiency so he is able to use two of the three items above. I did notice that both the butterfly knife and switchblade say "treat this weapon as a dagger." Can this line be used as justification for allowing a rogue to use the weapons?


Unless you give a complete quote of the text I can't be sure, but it sounds as it doesn't aplies to proficiencies since they aren't in the same category.

Humbly,
Yawar

The Exchange

That does seem very confusing for no good reason. Why list them as anything else if you're going to say "treat as a dagger"? They all have their own stat block, and are listed in the (I assume) correct proficiencies- why this extra line?


On page 2, in the big text at the top...

"If a weapon description says it is 'treated as' another weapon, a character lacking the appropriate exotic weapon proficiency can still use it as if it were the other kind of weapon and feats such as weapon focus still apply, as do abilities requiring a certain weapon."

It goes on to basically say that you can wield a butterfly knife as a dagger (though without the free action open/close, I think).

Scarab Sages

Jason_Langlois wrote:

On page 2, in the big text at the top...

"If a weapon description says it is 'treated as' another weapon, a character lacking the appropriate exotic weapon proficiency can still use it as if it were the other kind of weapon and feats such as weapon focus still apply, as do abilities requiring a certain weapon."

It goes on to basically say that you can wield a butterfly knife as a dagger (though without the free action open/close, I think).

Ah, yes. The very, very large block of text that I _completely_ ignored. Ahem.

Thank you, he said sheepishly.

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