Aldori Dueling Master Build - comments welcome


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Hi there,

Here's a build I have been playing around with a bit. I wanted to build a leader-type warrior, who fought with an Aldori Dueling sword. He will have a very decent to-hit when fighting with an ADS, but may lack damage potential. AC is also to low to be a proper frontline fighter.

I imagine he will hang back for the first round or two of combat, buffing, dazzeling and using his bard performance, and then moving in to flank. He will probably use a buckler, so he can switch between using 1H/2H use of his sword.

Comments are welcome on how to improve the build, suggestions for equipment, tactics, spell selection and good team-mates etc.

The build:

Aldori Dueling Master
Race: Human
Stats - 20 point buy

Str: 13 (3)
Dex: 16 (10)
Con: 13 (3)
Int: 11 (1)
Wis: 8 (-2)
Cha: 14 (5) +2 (Human bonus)

Favored class: Bard (always +1 HP)

Skills:
Max out: Intimidate, Perform (Oratory), UMD, Acrobatics.

Traits:
Sword Scion (Kingmaker players guide), Natural leader

Level - Class - feats
1 - Fighter - Exotic Wpn prof (Aldori dueling sword), Wpn Finesse (Human), Wnp focus (Aldori dueling sword) (Fighter Bonus)
2 - Bard
3 - Fighter - Arcane Strike, Power Attack (Fighter Bonus)
4 - Bard - +1 CON, Versatile Performance (oratory)
5 - Bard - Dazzeling display
6 - Bard
7 - Bard - Leadership
8 - Bard - +1 STR, Versatile Performance (wind)
9 - Bard - Shatter Defenses
10 - Fighter
11 - Eldritch Knight - Wpn spec (aldori dueling sword), Imp Critical (Aldori dueling sword) (EK Bonus)
12 - EK - +1 DEX
13 - EK - Critical Focus
14 - EK
15 - EK - GWF (Aldori dueling sword), Staggering Critical (EK bonus)
16 - EK - +1 DEX
17 - EK - Blinding Critical
18 - EK
19 - EK - Aldori Dueling Mastery, GWS (Aldori dueling sword) (EK Bonus)
20 - EK - +1 DEX

Final stats:
Fighter 3/Bard 7/Eldritch Knight 10
HP: 164
BAB: +18/+13/+8/+3 CMB +20/CMD +34
Saves: Fort +12/Ref +13/ Will +8


JaceDK wrote:


Str: 16 (10) +2 (human bonus)
Dex: 11 (1)
Con: 12 (2)
Int: 12 (2)
Wis: 8 (-2)
Cha: 15 (7)

The stats I would go with.

Quote:


Level - Class - feats
1 - Fighter - Wpn Finesse

Why Weapon Finesse? Why? There's no reason to. You're just making your character take more stats to play. You have nothing besides Weapon Finesse that makes Dex an important stat.

Quote:


2 - Bard
3 - Fighter - Arcane Strike, *Intimidating Prowess (Fighter Bonus)
4 - Bard - +1 CON, Versatile Performance (oratory)
5 - Bard - Dazzeling display
6 - Bard
7 - Bard - Leadership

I would suggest that, instead of being half-bard/fighter/EK, to use Leadership to get a bard cohort. Now you have a level 5 straight-classed bard with all of the benefits, and can enjoy being a level 7 straight-classed fighter with all of the benefits. Now your fighter can be good at fighting and marginally good at leading and your bard can do anything else you may have wanted to do.

That's my thoughts.


Ice Titan wrote:
JaceDK wrote:


Str: 16 (10) +2 (human bonus)
Dex: 11 (1)
Con: 12 (2)
Int: 12 (2)
Wis: 8 (-2)
Cha: 15 (7)

The stats I would go with.

Quote:


Level - Class - feats
1 - Fighter - Wpn Finesse

Why Weapon Finesse? Why? There's no reason to. You're just making your character take more stats to play. You have nothing besides Weapon Finesse that makes Dex an important stat.

Quote:


2 - Bard
3 - Fighter - Arcane Strike, *Intimidating Prowess (Fighter Bonus)
4 - Bard - +1 CON, Versatile Performance (oratory)
5 - Bard - Dazzeling display
6 - Bard
7 - Bard - Leadership

I would suggest that, instead of being half-bard/fighter/EK, to use Leadership to get a bard cohort. Now you have a level 5 straight-classed bard with all of the benefits, and can enjoy being a level 7 straight-classed fighter with all of the benefits. Now your fighter can be good at fighting and marginally good at leading and your bard can do anything else you may have wanted to do.

That's my thoughts.

Check the feat he's building to. Aldori Dueling Mastery requires Dex 17 and Weapon Finesse.


Chris Kenney wrote:


Check the feat he's building to. Aldori Dueling Mastery requires Dex 17 and Weapon Finesse.

Spot on.


Chris Kenney wrote:


Check the feat he's building to. Aldori Dueling Mastery requires Dex 17 and Weapon Finesse.

You only need the belt of phisical perfection. If Valeros has Greater Two Weapon Fighting without the necesary dexterity , you can surpass the necesary requirement with the item too.


guille f wrote:
Chris Kenney wrote:


Check the feat he's building to. Aldori Dueling Mastery requires Dex 17 and Weapon Finesse.
You only need the belt of phisical perfection. If Valeros has Greater Two Weapon Fighting without the necesary dexterity , you can surpass the necesary requirement with the item too.

I still need Weapon Finesse - so I might as well have the dex to take advantage of it.


Chris Kenney wrote:


Check the feat he's building to. Aldori Dueling Mastery requires Dex 17 and Weapon Finesse.

I didn't even know it was a real feat. I looked it up... I dunno. Restricting yourself to light armor and using weapon finesse... not sure if the benefit (+2 shield to AC, +1d4 dmg when two-handing the dueling sword, "rapidshot" for melee full attacks) outweigh the penalties.

And then Leadership... I like bard spell critical (lots of cool options that bypass the need for damage), but again, just taking a bard as a cohort would free up the dueling master to just be really good at dueling.

I'm not sure how to make the character fit the focus while still contributing as much as he can.

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With Armory Mastery, Medium armor is still viable.

Here is my PFS Aldori Duelist:
Cristian Aldori
Fighter 7
Str 14
Dex 18
Con 14
Int 13
Wis 10
Cha 10 (yes I play him as a stuck up prick)
FC: Fighter

Feats: Exotic Wpn Prof: Aldori Dueling Sword
Weapon Finesse
Weapon Focus: ADS
Agile Maneuvers
Combat Expertise
Wpn Specialization
Improved Feint (found later I should have taken Dodge)
Lunge
Vital Strike

Traits: Reactionary and Suspicious

Major Equipment: Breast Plate +1
Aldori Dueling Sword +2
Cloak of Resistance +2
Ring of Protection +1

Current AC: 22 (7 armor, 4 dex, 1 deflection)
Aldori Dueling Sword: +15/+10 1d8+8
When using Lunge, Vital Strike, and Combat Expertise: +13 2d8+8 AC 22
Saves: Fort +9 Ref +8 Will +4 (+2 vs Fear)

I hit 90% of the time.


I really like the build, looks quite good to me.

Depending on how exactly you plan to work things (and how things work out of course), I might suggest stats of:

Str: 13 (3)
Dex: 15 (7) +2 (Human bonus)
Con: 13 (3)
Int: 12 (2) or 10
Wis: 8 (-2) or 10
Cha: 15 (7)

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