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A few players in my group ordered the Pathfinder Core rules and theBestiary from Amazon a few weeks ago.
The Bestiary was on backorder so their shipment has not yet gone out.
I understand from reading prior posts that Paizo has no control over this and it is a distributor that delivers to Amazon, not Paizo itself.
That said - any idea how long this sort of thing takes? Or is the Bestiary itself temporarily OOP?
Just curious.
I ordered a copy of the bestiary and the core rules from amazon on the 8th, and by the 10th my order had already been delivered (free shipping too!). Looking at their site right now, it appears to be in stock. You should probably contact amazon if they ordered a few weeks ago, which would be before I did, and still have not received their items.
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Ahhh, Amazon.com. The blackhole of books. You never know when one might escape the gravitational pull and get shipped out.
Sometimes it's very fast, some times it's never at all.
Honestly though you should always make an effort to not buy from Amazon if you can help it. Support your Friendly Local Game Store! :D
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A few players in my group ordered the Pathfinder Core rules and theBestiary from Amazon a few weeks ago.
The Bestiary was on backorder so their shipment has not yet gone out.
A couple of weeks ago was about the time that Amazon has a pricing mix-up with some of Diamond comics items (accidentally selling items for 90% off if I remember correctly) it sounds like your friends ordered after they had caught their screw-up and had all of the items they receive from diamond on back order until they had a through count of their inventory.
this may be what caused the issue you are seeing, where it was put on back order, but they really had it in stock, causing some weird issues.... just a guess
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A couple of weeks ago was about the time that Amazon has a pricing mix-up with some of Diamond comics items (accidentally selling items for 90% off if I remember correctly) it sounds like your friends ordered after they had caught their screw-up and had all of the items they receive from diamond on back order until they had a through count of their inventory.
this may be what caused the issue you are seeing, where it was put on back order, but they really had it in stock, causing some weird issues.... just a guess
That may well be. Well hopefully it will get sorted out.
As far as FLGS shopping is concerned, I tend to agree with you in most cases. However, the store they were in wanted to charge the "CDN" cover price for the item plus pst and gst sales taxes. The "Cdn" cover price is one of those things which antagonizes the hell out of Canadians, as the tradition of a higher Cdn cover price was formed 2 decades ago when our dollar really was worth 70-80 cents USD. That's not the case anymore, and book dealers are pulling a fast one on Canadians.
The Cdn dollar cover price turns the requested price for the Core Rules alone into $70 CDN after tax. Seeing as the CDN dollar and USD are essentially at par (and the CDN dollar will probably go ahead of the USD this summer), and the cost to get the Core Rules off of Amazon was $32 CDN, my friends each ordered the Bestiary as an extra.
For about $10 less than the sale price in the store for just the Core Rules, they got the Core Rules and the Bestiary, both after shipping and taxes.
Sorry. The support your local FLGS thing only goes so far. They went with Amazon and I don't blame them. I would have too.
It's not just Amazon... I live in deepest darkest South Africa and everyone is out of stock of the Bestiary. No one can even order it for me because their overseas suppliers have no stock either. This includes all our online shops.
Any ideas how long it will take to be back in print or in stock? No one even seems to know what the problem is :/
It's not just Amazon... I live in deepest darkest South Africa and everyone is out of stock of the Bestiary. No one can even order it for me because their overseas suppliers have no stock either. This includes all our online shops.
Any ideas how long it will take to be back in print or in stock? No one even seems to know what the problem is :/
First: AmazonPrincess, if you have a distributor in South Africa, please let me know who or have them contact me. I would *love* to sell directly to them. I've found that whole continent a tough nut to crack. =)
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Ok, here's how the Amazon stock issue stands with us. Diamond Book Distributors supplies our products to Amazon. Amazon orders huge chunks of the core books from Diamond. The hang onto them for about a month or two, then return what they haven't shipped. They then order another huge chunk of books. I have no idea why they do it this way (and, frankly, wish they would quit it).
Right now, Paizo is out of the core books. So, in the last month, Amazon returned what books they had to Diamond...but Diamond had none to send them on their reorder.
In the meantime, the returns Amazon has been sending to Diamond have been trickling into the bookstores around the country. Which is good for us, as it means the channel hasn't completely dried up while we're reprinting.
So, I have no idea why Amazon doesn't hang onto the books it orders when it has more copies on order and its supplier is out. I also don't know why they choose to fulfill one order over another. Needless to say, that's not how Paizo does/would do it. So, why a particular Amazon order didn't get filled, I can't say. But you now have a peek behind the curtain as to why they may not have it available at a given point.
With all that said: the reprint should be at Paizo in a little over a week, which means there should be plenty to go around for everyone.
Makes some very good points about Canadian dollar pricing.
Steel_Wind: as I'm sure you've noticed, Paizo doesn't put a Canadian price on our books. For pretty much exactly these reasons. the most recent product I could find where we did was Shackled City.
So, Paizo products don't have a CDN cover price, as such. Were I you, I'd take umbrage with the practice of the FLGS charging that much more.
Also, note, my Canadian distributors pay exactly the same price as my American distributors (and my Australian and European, and...).
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Ok, here's how the Amazon stock issue stands with us. Diamond Book Distributors supplies our products to Amazon. Amazon orders huge chunks of the core books from Diamond. The hang onto them for about a month or two, then return what they haven't shipped. They then order another huge chunk of books. I have no idea why they do it this way (and, frankly, wish they would quit it).
My guess is that Amazon must be paying Net 30/60, adjusted for returns, which would mean that this practice gives Amazon a guaranteed inventory at someone else's carrying cost that way. It the shipping cost/return pick up fee is paid by Diamond -- and you see your material handling costs as fixed costs that are incurred anyway - then the whole procedure is a good business practice if you are Amazon as it gives you guaranteed inventory on somebody else's dime.
Guaranteed until the distributor runs out, that is.
My thanks for the candid reply. I'll let them know. And I'll do the same concerning the "missing" Canadian cover price too. They probably didn't even see under the sticker!
I know the Core Rules are carried in town for much less than that particular store (Which is ordinarily a pretty good store, too, I might add.)
Mind you - at least they actually HAVE the Bestiary; which at this stage is definitely a point in their favour, :)
While waiting for a reprint is unpleasant - having a product that is successful enough that one is required is quite the opposite. My congratulations to Paizo on that necessity.
First: AmazonPrincess, if you have a distributor in South Africa, please let me know who or have them contact me. I would *love* to sell directly to them. I've found that whole continent a tough nut to crack. =)
I'm not sure if they count as distributors, but Outer Limits (www.outerlimits.co.za) is the only physical shop here that actually sells RPG sourcebooks and the like. Our best online stores are www.kalahari.net and www.take2.co.za
I hope that helps! Thanks for the info... hopefully someone will get stock here once the reprint comes out :)
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Is this already the third printing of the book? :OWith all that said: the reprint should be at Paizo in a little over a week, which means there should be plenty to go around for everyone.
Yes, we'll soon be receiving the third printing of the Core Rulebook and the second printing of the Bestiary.
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Yes, we'll soon be receiving the third printing of the Core Rulebook and the second printing of the Bestiary.Is this already the third printing of the book? :OWith all that said: the reprint should be at Paizo in a little over a week, which means there should be plenty to go around for everyone.
Does this bode well for getting a new version of the FAQ? I know people mentioned it would be updated with the new printing
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Yes. What bodes best for it is the completion of the Advanced Player's Guide, which ships to the printer within about two weeks. The same folks responsible for the primary design on our rulebooks are the guys primarily responsible for errata and the FAQ, so once their APG responsibilities have been met getting these files updated goes back to the top of the to-do list.