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Male Human Bard 6+2 : HP 51 : AC 14 CMD 16 Touch 12 Flat 12 : F +4 R +8 W +7 : INIT +2 Perc +11 CMB +4

Xp and gold updated.

Can I apply my Craft skills to my starting equipment?


Virgil Longstreet wrote:
Can I apply my Craft skills to my starting equipment?

Sure. If not, what is the point in taking the craft (skills)? (IMO)


Virgil Longstreet wrote:
Xp and gold updated.

Max gold for paladin is 300 gp (5d6x10). When you craft, you pay 1/3 cost in raw materials. Since the half-plate alone is 200 gp if you crafted it (normal price is 600), how can you have 102 gp left? Also, I'd think you'd need a waterskin at least in equpment. Thanks.


Braddock, since you get max gold for your class, add or spend an additional 100 gp on your character. Maybe some mw thieves' tools?


Male Human Bard 6+2 : HP 51 : AC 14 CMD 16 Touch 12 Flat 12 : F +4 R +8 W +7 : INIT +2 Perc +11 CMB +4

How can I have 102gp left? Because apparently I cannot properly use a calculator, that's how. :) I fixed my sheet and added a few adventuring items like a backpack, shaving kit, waterskin, etc.

Do we have a goal date to start up?


Virgil Longstreet wrote:
Do we have a goal date to start up?

At the latest by Monday, I would say, depending on when FWolf stats up his cleric.


Cookie Jar Pilferer 9 ; Dimensional Explorer 4

FW started his cleric here

Looks like the history still needs editing.


Male Half Orc Rogue - 1
Death-Lok wrote:
Braddock the Bastard wrote:
Is this more to what you were wanting?
Yes, thank you, still missing intiative (+3, right?). And I think your AC is 15 not 14 (Leather is +2 and +3 Dex).

Updated and added the extra (starting with max) gold after buying one antitoxin.


Male Human Bard 6+2 : HP 51 : AC 14 CMD 16 Touch 12 Flat 12 : F +4 R +8 W +7 : INIT +2 Perc +11 CMB +4
therealthom wrote:

FW started his cleric here

Looks like the history still needs editing.

A lawful-good religious figure wielding a hammer? Virgil nods in approval.

Monday sounds great. I'm good to go.


therealthom wrote:
Looks like the history still needs editing.

Yeah and the domains are wrong too.


Braddock the Bastard wrote:
Updated and added the extra (starting with max) gold after buying one antitoxin.

Cool and flatfooted AC is 12 not 11.

The Exchange

Starting tomorrow will be fine. Zennor will be done and dusted by then.

Cheers


Background, equipment and a few double checks then this baby is ready for the once over Death Lok, should be done by lunchtime here in the UK.

Cheers


Done. Ready for inspection, Sar!

Just in case we go live later tonight, I work Monday evenings so I doubt I'll be able to post much after about 4pm UK time. He isn't a big talker anyway.

Cheers


Male Human Bard 6+2 : HP 51 : AC 14 CMD 16 Touch 12 Flat 12 : F +4 R +8 W +7 : INIT +2 Perc +11 CMB +4

I'm at work on Mondays from 8:00-4:00 EST. I am employed at a hospital, so there is no wifi for posting. Expect me to post later in the day.


Zennor Praze Sanjust wrote:

Done. Ready for inspection, Sar!

Just in case we go live later tonight, I work Monday evenings so I doubt I'll be able to post much after about 4pm UK time. He isn't a big talker anyway.

Cheers

Looks good, Zennor. I just changed his mount to a pony, if that's ok. A dwarf on a horse seems odd.

One masterwork bolt with no crossbow? I have a feeling there is a story there somewhere.


Guys, tonight is my RL game which I DM (LoF AP), so I may not be able to post till late EST.

The Exchange

Death-Lok wrote:
Zennor Praze Sanjust wrote:

Done. Ready for inspection, Sar!

Just in case we go live later tonight, I work Monday evenings so I doubt I'll be able to post much after about 4pm UK time. He isn't a big talker anyway.

Cheers

Looks good, Zennor. I just changed his mount to a pony, if that's ok. A dwarf on a horse seems odd.

One masterwork bolt with no crossbow? I have a feeling there is a story there somewhere.

Yeah, I checked the Rulebook and it said dwarves ride horses not ponies. I am happy either way.

Cheers


Cookie Jar Pilferer 9 ; Dimensional Explorer 4

That's cause dwarves are too heavy for ponies. And it gets worse when they put on their armour.

;-p


French Wolf wrote:

Yeah, I checked the Rulebook and it said dwarves ride horses not ponies. I am happy either way.

Cheers

When you're right, you're right. The dwarf is on a horse, just looks odd, but cool.

The Exchange

I'm not taking off my armour!


Goblin Snake/Braddock, unless I hear from you by noon EST tomorrow, I'm replacing your character. Not cool to apply for a game and then not post at all.


Goblin Snake/Braddock, sorry, but I've found a replacement. I know there are RL issues but to not give me as DM some heads up is not cool IMO. No hard feelings.


Female Human Rogue 1

Thanks for the invite, DL. I hope Ari won't disappoint. Unfortunately I'm in a new work area at my job here at O'Hare. I'm currently working in the outbound bagroom for American Airlines. Said bagroom is underground beneath 3' of concrete and steel so, sad to say, my wireless card wont work there so i'll be limited in my postings during the day (basically when I get a chance to poke my head out to see if the sun is still shining). Otherwise i'm good to post first thing in the morning and in the evening after my daughter as gone to bed.
I'll finish up with the gear and bio this afternoon/evening and jump in then.
Thanks again and good luck all.


Male Human Dad/17

re-dotting


Female Human Rogue 1

Bio up (and it's a long one). Should have the gear in tommorrow. now it's time for bed.
(I've got to get myself organized, some things are on my laptop from work and some on my desktop at home. "and never the twain shall meet".

The Exchange

Virgil/DM - my intention is for Zennor to learn to craft siege type weapons which would fit with his character and the God of Strategy and Protection pretty well.

However thinking ultra long term, could we twist the rules and let Virgil and Zennor combine to make a +1 holy sword?

Cheers

P.S. Good to have you on board Arianna.


Human Psychomancer

Zennor/DM - Since Virgil would not have the spellcasting abilities necessary to enchant weapons (I'm thinking of taking a non-spellcasting PrC), I was think that both Zennor and Virgil could make arms and armor, but Zennor would do all of the enchanting.

Under the description of crafting magic items, it is not necessary for the spellcaster to have made the item himself. It only says that, "The weapon, armor, or shield to be enhanced must be a masterwork item that you provide." So we could have Virgil toiling away at the anvil while Zennor prays and chants to enchant the items and double-team party weapon and armor creation. Thoughts?


Female Human Rogue 1

Gear is all selected and it looks like i'm good to go. Could someone double check my "sheet" to see if i've messed up somewhere. Two heads (or more) are better than one.


French Wolf wrote:

However thinking ultra long term, could we twist the rules and let Virgil and Zennor combine to make a +1 holy sword?

As long as you take the craft magic arms and armor feat and have the requisite spells, I don't see a problem with it, and as Virgil said, he could make them, and the person with the feat could enchant them.


Arianna Ravenswood wrote:
Gear is all selected and it looks like i'm good to go. Could someone double check my "sheet" to see if i've messed up somewhere. Two heads (or more) are better than one.

CMD is 14, not 15 (+1 Str, +3 Dex). I am assuming you took rogue as favored class and took +1 hp at 1st level. If so, indicate that in profile. Also, you should put the combat stats for just a strike with the short sword. Other than that, looks good.


Male Human Dad/17

Don't forget about the Dodge feat. Unless I'm mistaken it should also add to the CMD.

Core Rulebook pg. 199 wrote:


A creature can also add any circumstance,
deflection, dodge, insight, morale, profane, and sacred
bonuses to AC to its CMD. Any penalties to a creature’s
AC also apply to its CMD.

I'll make a note of the Favored class somewhere in there.

Thanks


Cookie Jar Pilferer 9 ; Dimensional Explorer 4

Death-Lok, a couple character mechanics questions: How do you feel about the Bladesinger and Arcane Archer PrCs? Can Sil's perform(dance) skill cover juggling too or must I take sleight of hand?


Vanulf Wulfson wrote:
Don't forget about the Dodge feat.

Good catch there! Thanks!


therealthom wrote:
Death-Lok, a couple character mechanics questions: How do you feel about the Bladesinger and Arcane Archer PrCs? Can Sil's perform(dance) skill cover juggling too or must I take sleight of hand?

I know the Arcane Archer PrC (that's fine) but can you give me the source that you were thinking of for the Bladesinger. There were so many 3.5 versions of it.

I have no problem with the Perform skill covering the juggling.


Male Human Dad/17
Death-Lok wrote:
Good catch there! Thanks!

No prob, I added a Flat footed category to the CMD just in case.


I had already selected 5pm as the time when Zennor prays to Torag. He did it over a pile of catapult bits. The time I selected reflects when he would have either just finished a shift in the mine or just be about to start.

All my other clerics picked dawn so I fancied something more problematic and the rules say I just pick a time to pray every day.

The day's spells are chosen but I have left one slot blank until I decide what to do with it nearer the time.

Cheers


Hey guys, I feel awful, but I'm going to let this game go. I feel bad for the 3 new players (Virgil, Zennor, and Arianna) and Sil who have brought new enthusiasm to the game, but it's just common decency, IMO, that if you can't post 1 or 2 or more days, you let me know, as DM. Players instead disappear for days without word. I believe Cale and especially Garyn are gone now, so it just leaves Sil from the original group. Sure, I could replace the missing players, but that just kills the vibe of the game. Again, I apologize and if my shortcomings as DM were responsible for the lack of posting, I take full responsibility. Now I understand why these PbPs don't last, it's hard to find the right mix of DM and dedicated players.


Male Human Dad/17

DL,
It's no fault of your own. Sometimes RL has a way of rearing it's ugly head at unexpected times. That being said I think you're a little premature in pulling the trigger on this game. Have you any way to contact the errant players? The final decision is yours, but I would try and give them until the end of the week to respond.
If you do decide to kill this game and run another I would be honored if you would consider letting myself and the others still around have a shot at playing with you again.
Thanks,
V


Cookie Jar Pilferer 9 ; Dimensional Explorer 4

Death-Lok, I'm sorry to see the game go. I second Vanulf in all particulars, especially that RL can interrupt one or even a few players for a day or two occasionally. I'd like to protest that you have not been deficient in any way running the game. I have quite enjoyed playing with you. In the end it's your call; I'll support that decision.

The Exchange

My 2 pence worth...

The first Kingmaker game that Vanulf and I joined was destined to fail. We tried to keep things going but there were just too many issues and eventually the game fell apart. The DM wasn't experienced enough.

Death-Lok, I'd like to give you a bit of time before the game is ended not least because I am sure you are the right DM and you are running a good game. Its not your fault that one or two of the players have shown a lack of courtesy. This happens. I haven't played in a game in which this doesn't. In fact TT will tell you that I blew up one character when his player started behaving badly, I lost two more without a word but in the end the Splintered Isles had a terrific bunch of players.

Looking at it with a touch of positivity, TT and I run two games each so we aren't going anywhere and TT is one of the most supportive players a DM could ask for. Vanulf made a very courageous plea to join a Kingmaker game so I doubt if he will be leaving us too.

Tanner has just started a game too so I doubt he is going anywhere fast. But if he does then the time to find out is now. Its much easier to bring in replacements at the beginning. You handled the Goblin Snake problem well.

My advice is that you give the players a few days to respond like you did with Goblin Snake and then use us and our extensive contacts to find replacements that are trustworthy. Dabbler, for instance, is very dedicated and since you are working so hard for us, don't you deserve to cherry pick players? I think you do.

One last point which may be way off base but here goes, don't take poor players personally. Its your game and this is just teething troubles, in the end you will get a decent group until then the ones that fall by the wayside, f&#! em. They are the ones missing out. Harsh but ultimately fair.

Cheers

P.S. I wouldn't spend my time on this if I didn't think your game isn't worth it.


Human Psychomancer

:Darth Vader voice:
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

I understand completely, Death-Lok.

If you still feel like DM'ing, would you be up for a complete reboot from the beginning? We could even roll up new characters to make it a fresh start. Come on, you know you want to. :)


Male Human Dad/17

Garyn posted in the in-game thread that he has been having computer issues (his home PC died). So he hasn't abandoned the game yet.


Male Human Dad/17

Well Cale has posted now, so the gangs all here. Do we still have a GM?


Human Psychomancer

Yes, we're all back! The game isn't completely dead!

PLEASE COME BACK, DEATH-LOK! :)


Cookie Jar Pilferer 9 ; Dimensional Explorer 4

Death-Lok hasn't posted on these boards at all since he stopped the game on Wednesday. While I hope it is not the case, I fear he has departed forever.

I will continue to peek in here for the next week or so, hoping he starts up again.

Death-Lok, if you do come back. I won't be able to post in game until Monday.

The Exchange

I have been checking daily in the hope that Death-Lok will respond but when he didn't reply straight away that was a bad sign.

We may have gone the way of the dodo. C'est la vie.

Cheers

The Exchange

M

Hi fellas, some of you know me so hope you don't mind my meddling.

You have a full team of willing players, I'm thinking you should try for a DM in the recruitment thread rather than let it die.

I'd step into the role myself (and was sorely tempted) but really can't do the time it requires. I'd end up flaking part way through my teaching term and having done that already to some of you it would be unfair.

I'm sure someone would give it a go though. It happened for a dead and buried LoF campaign I used to be in and it's going strong now for those who remained.

sorry for the interrupt

Cheers


Human Psychomancer

Thanks, Wrath. Any thought on the previous post, guys?


Male Human Dad/17

I'm game provided that everyone else hasn't scattered. I'll post something up tomorrow.

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