If this has been already covered, please forgive my search-fu for failing to find it.
Since Vudra seems to be "psionics central" in Golarion, would it be possible to cover them both in a single hardcover? Maybe the first 2/3rds of the book could modify/rebuild psionics to work in Pathfinder (and address Mr. Jacobs' and others' concerns with the 3.5 XPH/SRD implementation), and the other 1/3 of the book could have a Chronicles-style coverage of the background and major locations in Vudra? Then any psionics-weilding NPCs and baddies in the Vudra section could use standard stat blocks or 1-line descriptions without the need to cover paragraphs of psionics mechanics.
It's been my impression from the boards that most of the people interested in Vudra are also interested in psionics for Pathfinder... would this approach work for the developers at Paizo? Would it work for the Paizonians out there?
+1 - Psionics and Vudra combined in the same single hardcover makes the most sense to me. But there's one issue ..... they'll probably want to make Psionics system neutral and thus not want to include Vudra, but instead its own separate softcover. *shrug*
Yeah They want Pathfinder RPG stuff to be setting neutral
I would think there is little chance of a Vudra/Psionics hardcover
I suppose its possible that there will be a small chapter on Vudra (like 2 to 4 pages) in a Psionics books. But I would think even that is unlikely
Well, I was thinking of something like the 3.0 version of Oriental Adventures... which had plenty of generic asian-themed crunch (for any campaign) and lots of info on the Rokugan setting. The Rokugan-specific info didn't stop anyone from using the other stuff in other settings, like Kara-Tur or a homebrew.
Understood. And frankly, I would welcome your idea. I just dont think thats Paizo's game plan
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I remember some very strong opinions from reading a previous thread asking the question what people were looking for in a psionics product. There were those, and I think it included some of the paizo staff, who wanted to pull psionics closer to a vancian casting system, so it “meshed” better with the existing magic system. There were others, like myself, who had some sacred cows ( no pun intended as we are discussing mythic Indian themed Vudra) they did not want sacrificed. My sacred cows are the power point system, augmentation, and the psionic focus mechanic. I believe Dream Scarred press is producing something that will be an update from the 3.5 expanded psionics rules to the pathfinder system. I think they are sticking closely to the expanded psionics book.
While I would be very interested in any campaign information offered, and I would be interested in the 3.5 expanded psionics being cleaned up in much the same way Pathfinder cleans up and improves upon 3.5 D&D, However, I would not be interested in a “new “ iteration of the psionics rules.
I am sure Paizo would do an excellent job at providing fascinating campaign information.
I might suggest looking at the Eberon book Secrets of Sarlona. It is excellently written, and provides a fascinating look at a society in which psionices is interwoven, and dominated by alien intelligences (Quori)
Green Ronin also put out a setting called Mind shadows, which interwove psionics and was Indian themed.
If this has been already covered, please forgive my search-fu for failing to find it.
Since Vudra seems to be "psionics central" in Golarion, would it be possible to cover them both in a single hardcover? Maybe the first 2/3rds of the book could modify/rebuild psionics to work in Pathfinder (and address Mr. Jacobs' and others' concerns with the 3.5 XPH/SRD implementation), and the other 1/3 of the book could have a Chronicles-style coverage of the background and major locations in Vudra? Then any psionics-weilding NPCs and baddies in the Vudra section could use standard stat blocks or 1-line descriptions without the need to cover paragraphs of psionics mechanics.
It's been my impression from the boards that most of the people interested in Vudra are also interested in psionics for Pathfinder... would this approach work for the developers at Paizo? Would it work for the Paizonians out there?
Ambrosia... it would sure work for me. :)
However, unless an overwhelming number of us beg, plead, and cajole for such a book... I think the posters above me are right, that it likely won't happen, which is too bad, because I think this would be a really cool supplement/sourcebook.
So, the back-up plan (as someone above me stated) would be releasing an Vudra PF Chronicles book as closely as possible with the PFRPG Psionics book. Which I'm okay with that too.
Dean (TMW)
Green Ronin also put out a setting called Mind shadows, which interwove psionics and was Indian themed.
Very good suggestion there. I actually own this. =)
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For now Mindshadows is a good kludge for Vudra.
We don't have anything on the schedule for psionics yet. I think we will probably get to it in a couple of years, and at that time I expect a couple of things to happen, pretty much at the same time.
1) Paizo releases Pathfinder RPG Psionics book.
2) Paizo releases Vudra book in the campaign setting line, integrating the PF Psionics rules into the world of Golarion in a gazetteer-style product. This book would feature an Indian society with some psionics entwined with it.
3) Paizo releases a Castrovel: The Green Planet book in the campaign setting line, featuring a gazetteer-style overview of a pulp science fantasy setting that FULLY integrates the Pathfinder Psionics system into the world.
As others have said, we want to keep the Pathfinder RPG rulebooks campaign-setting neutral, because lots of people buy those books and many of them use other settings.
I like the sound of that concurrent release cycle. Thanks, Erik!
It would shoot well with a 2012 release given all the other real-world hype that happens by year's end. =)
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We don't have anything on the schedule for psionics yet. I think we will probably get to it in a couple of years, and at that time I expect a couple of things to happen, pretty much at the same time.
1) Paizo releases Pathfinder RPG Psionics book.
2) Paizo releases Vudra book in the campaign setting line, integrating the PF Psionics rules into the world of Golarion in a gazetteer-style product. This book would feature an Indian society with some psionics entwined with it.
3) Paizo releases a Castrovel: The Green Planet book in the campaign setting line, featuring a gazetteer-style overview of a pulp science fantasy setting that FULLY integrates the Pathfinder Psionics system into the world.
Want.
All of it.
Also, seconding the recommendation on Mindshadows. It's an eerily good fit.
I think we will probably get to it in a couple of years, and at that time I expect a couple of things to happen, pretty much at the same time.
1) Paizo releases Pathfinder RPG Psionics book.
2) Paizo releases Vudra book in the campaign setting line, integrating the PF Psionics rules into the world of Golarion in a gazetteer-style product. This book would feature an Indian society with some psionics entwined with it.
3) Paizo releases a Castrovel: The Green Planet book in the campaign setting line, featuring a gazetteer-style overview of a pulp science fantasy setting that FULLY integrates the Pathfinder Psionics system into the world.
As others have said, we want to keep the Pathfinder RPG rulebooks campaign-setting neutral, because lots of people buy those books and many of them use other settings.
+1!
It would shoot well with a 2012 release given all the other real-world hype that happens by year's end. =)
Oh, that's evil. ;)
For now Mindshadows is a good kludge for Vudra.
We don't have anything on the schedule for psionics yet. I think we will probably get to it in a couple of years, and at that time I expect a couple of things to happen, pretty much at the same time.
1) Paizo releases Pathfinder RPG Psionics book.
2) Paizo releases Vudra book in the campaign setting line, integrating the PF Psionics rules into the world of Golarion in a gazetteer-style product. This book would feature an Indian society with some psionics entwined with it.
3) Paizo releases a Castrovel: The Green Planet book in the campaign setting line, featuring a gazetteer-style overview of a pulp science fantasy setting that FULLY integrates the Pathfinder Psionics system into the world.
As others have said, we want to keep the Pathfinder RPG rulebooks campaign-setting neutral, because lots of people buy those books and many of them use other settings.
And who do I make this check out to? That's spelled M-O-N-A ... okay, let me just get that ready ... [goes to write a check for the books noted]
...and hopefully after Castrovel that Akiton will get its due props, as that planet screams for some pulpy E.R. Burroughs mash-ups.
For now Mindshadows is a good kludge for Vudra.
We don't have anything on the schedule for psionics yet. I think we will probably get to it in a couple of years, and at that time I expect a couple of things to happen, pretty much at the same time.
1) Paizo releases Pathfinder RPG Psionics book.
2) Paizo releases Vudra book in the campaign setting line, integrating the PF Psionics rules into the world of Golarion in a gazetteer-style product. This book would feature an Indian society with some psionics entwined with it.
3) Paizo releases a Castrovel: The Green Planet book in the campaign setting line, featuring a gazetteer-style overview of a pulp science fantasy setting that FULLY integrates the Pathfinder Psionics system into the world.
As others have said, we want to keep the Pathfinder RPG rulebooks campaign-setting neutral, because lots of people buy those books and many of them use other settings.
+1!
2011 Year of the Psion
really, why not? AP, chronicles, a bestiary, it would be awesome!
Mmm...Castrovel...
Hopeful future news
w00ty-w00t! I already figured that Psionics & Vudra (or Castrovel) would be separate, but it never hurts to ask. :)
I still prefer the XPH take on psionics over a Vancian (I already preordered the upcoming Dreamscarred book), but I trust the Paizo developers to come up with an excellent version of psionics, no matter what form it ultimately takes. Future cashflow permitting, I'll probably get the Paizo psionics book too.
I can already guarantee I'll get the Vudra and Castrovel books/paths (and Akiton too), assuming I'm not in a 12-step program for Paizo addiction. :)
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3) Paizo releases a Castrovel: The Green Planet book in the campaign setting line, featuring a gazetteer-style overview of a pulp science fantasy setting that FULLY integrates the Pathfinder Psionics system into the world.
For the love of the gods, please make this happen as soon as possible. I (and my bank account) await this with bated breath.
I remember some very strong opinions from reading a previous thread asking the question what people were looking for in a psionics product. There were those, and I think it included some of the paizo staff, who wanted to pull psionics closer to a vancian casting system, so it “meshed” better with the existing magic system. There were others, like myself, who had some sacred cows ( no pun intended as we are discussing mythic Indian themed Vudra) they did not want sacrificed. My sacred cows are the power point system, augmentation, and the psionic focus mechanic.
Power points are the only mechanism that have been a constant since Psionics were first introduced. In my mind, this is the only 'sacred cow' that I would really like to keep.<br>
<br>Psionic focus is a nifty new mechanic with 3.5, that I believe may be what morphed into the mechanic of 'Encounter Abilities' in 4th edition. (It's relatively easy to recharge your focus between combats, but you often can't do it in the middle of a fight, without spending a couple feats on it at least.) However, as they are a new mechanic for the last edition, I'm not particularly attached to them, though I do kindof like the idea.<br>
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I was glad to see the Attack/Defense modes get canned with 3.5. Even though they had existed since Old D&D (where it worked more like a cleric's turning check), I thought they were kludgy.<br>
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Augmentation is just the newest incarnation of being able to boost a power's abilities. In 1st edition, it was represented by advancing your mastery level of a power (kindof like learning a more powerful version of the same power). In 2nd edition, it was represented by hitting your power score on the roll to activate the power (kindof like rolling a critical hit). Augmentation was created in the 3.5 XPH, which allows you to boost a power by just spending more power points.<br>
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Personally, I would prefer something more like the 1st edition way of 'augmenting', where you can take the option to relearn a more powerful version of the power, which would of course take more power points. (Same as a sorcerer learning 'charm person', and then learning 'charm monster' at higher level.) I might give them the option to automatically drop the lower-level version of the power to replace it with a different low-level power in the process of learning new powers.<br>
For now Mindshadows is a good kludge for Vudra.
We don't have anything on the schedule for psionics yet. I think we will probably get to it in a couple of years, and at that time I expect a couple of things to happen, pretty much at the same time.
1) Paizo releases Pathfinder RPG Psionics book.
2) Paizo releases Vudra book in the campaign setting line, integrating the PF Psionics rules into the world of Golarion in a gazetteer-style product. This book would feature an Indian society with some psionics entwined with it.
3) Paizo releases a Castrovel: The Green Planet book in the campaign setting line, featuring a gazetteer-style overview of a pulp science fantasy setting that FULLY integrates the Pathfinder Psionics system into the world.
As others have said, we want to keep the Pathfinder RPG rulebooks campaign-setting neutral, because lots of people buy those books and many of them use other settings.
Sounds awesome!!!
For now Mindshadows is a good kludge for Vudra.
We don't have anything on the schedule for psionics yet. I think we will probably get to it in a couple of years, and at that time I expect a couple of things to happen, pretty much at the same time.
1) Paizo releases Pathfinder RPG Psionics book.
2) Paizo releases Vudra book in the campaign setting line, integrating the PF Psionics rules into the world of Golarion in a gazetteer-style product. This book would feature an Indian society with some psionics entwined with it.
3) Paizo releases a Castrovel: The Green Planet book in the campaign setting line, featuring a gazetteer-style overview of a pulp science fantasy setting that FULLY integrates the Pathfinder Psionics system into the world.
As others have said, we want to keep the Pathfinder RPG rulebooks campaign-setting neutral, because lots of people buy those books and many of them use other settings.
love it
For now Mindshadows is a good kludge for Vudra.
We don't have anything on the schedule for psionics yet. I think we will probably get to it in a couple of years, and at that time I expect a couple of things to happen, pretty much at the same time.
1) Paizo releases Pathfinder RPG Psionics book.
2) Paizo releases Vudra book in the campaign setting line, integrating the PF Psionics rules into the world of Golarion in a gazetteer-style product. This book would feature an Indian society with some psionics entwined with it.
3) Paizo releases a Castrovel: The Green Planet book in the campaign setting line, featuring a gazetteer-style overview of a pulp science fantasy setting that FULLY integrates the Pathfinder Psionics system into the world.
As others have said, we want to keep the Pathfinder RPG rulebooks campaign-setting neutral, because lots of people buy those books and many of them use other settings.
Do that and I will buy all of them.