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Just got the word my time has come due. I can start my PHD in 9 months. Scary as it sounds I'm moving to Europe. Thats right the dawning of 2011 will mean I will be in the UK. All I can say is farewell North America and watch out Europe. Not that I'll think it'll be that much of a change I'm just trading one rock in the north atlantic for another.


Best of luck to you.
Keep us posted on your culture adjustment if you would, I think it would be facinating to hear about an americans perspective as he adjusts to a eurpoean lifestyle.

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Well lets just say my husband has me terrified with cultural horror stories I know are likely half made up. But Alex just laughs he's scottish and going home is what he's looking forward too most, I'm just excited.

Silver Crusade

Well, congrats and best wishes!


You're enjoying a rare opportunity, so do it with no regrets. Congrats!

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I wonder how often I can get away with the question "Are you talking the unit of weight or the unit of currency?" before it gets old and people get annoyed.

The Exchange

Once. No, actually, I'm annoyed already.

So whereabouts are you going?

Oh, and just to clarify, the UK is not part of Europe.

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Well, I had to compromise. My husband has a post doctorate lined up at the university of Glasgow, I have a PHD in Cambridge. So we are moving to Glasgow, I talked with my supervisor and they told me that would be fine but I would have to make a few trips to cambridge a year. So yeah I gotta find a bunch of scotts to play D&D with, it would seem.

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Jeremy Mcgillan wrote:
Well, I had to compromise. My husband has a post doctorate lined up at the university of Glasgow, I have a PHD in Cambridge. So we are moving to Glasgow, I talked with my supervisor and they told me that would be fine but I would have to make a few trips to cambridge a year. So yeah I gotta find a bunch of scotts to play D&D with it, would seem.

The problem is my only real experience with scotland (other than Alex) is the movie Braveheart. Do we still have to defend against the English?

The Exchange

Glasgow v Cambridge, and you chose Glasgow? Doesn't sound like a compromise to me, more like you lost big-time. ;-)

That said, when it's not raining, there are bits of Scotland that are simply lovely. I presume you have been before, given your husband's background?

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Jeremy Mcgillan wrote:
The problem is my only real experience with scotland (other than Alex) is the movie Braveheart. Do we still have to defend against the English?

No, the Scots kid themselves we'd be upset if they left, but it would save the English a fortune. And most of them know that, so they slag off the English but still stay in the Union for the cash. Frankly, they can go and take their unhealthy (ask about deep-fried Mars bars) jobless with them, in my (London-centric) view.

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Nah, I've met his lovely family who have visitied from there, (and boy do they have funny names, Yuna, Ganon, Cathal, and lest we forget his cousin Judith the welsh tart). But never been there...... yet.

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Also do you think a canadian will be treated well in the UK. I know I'm from one of those filthy colonies but I hope I'll seem at least somewhat exotic. Also why are people from Glasgow called glaswegians. It just sounds funny.

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Kidding aside, you should have a great time. there are pockets of severe deprivation in Glasgow but also the centre is nice, and there is some wonderful scenery not very far away at all and Edinburgh is also fairly close by. That said, I haven't been to Scotland all that much so can't really offer much perspective (I have visited Glasgow a couple of times on business but not recently) but I hope you'll find the UK welcoming. We certainly have some fairly different attitudes (one of the things I find both interesting and bizarre from being a poster on a mainly US-based website like Paizo is how two peoples sharing a language could have such different cultural bases) but nothing you couldn't handle, I'm sure.


Aubrey the Malformed wrote:
Oh, and just to clarify, the UK is not part of Europe.

Because it's part of heaven itself?

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Jeremy Mcgillan wrote:
Also do you think a canadian will be treated well in the UK. I know I'm from one of those filthy colonies but I hope I'll seem at least somewhat exotic.

Yes, we like the Canadians - you are quasi-Brits and (unlike the Australians) you don't beat us at every sport going. Plus we probably don't hear than much about you and so don't have much of an opinion either way. Americans we also like, by and large, but Europe (and to a lesser extent, the UK) has a slightly touchier relationship with them due to perceived American arrogance and the aftermath of Iraq. The UK was said to have a "special relationship" with the US but all that is fading bit post-Cold War, again Iraq, Bush and Blair have tarnished the whole thing a bit too, and we are probably more concerned with the EU on a day-to-day basis.

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The Jade wrote:
Aubrey the Malformed wrote:
Oh, and just to clarify, the UK is not part of Europe.
Because it's part of heaven itself?

No, because you can tell a European by his garlicky breath.


Aubrey the Malformed wrote:
we are probably more concerned with the EU on a day-to-day basis.

I always thought the EU was good, but then it's all Greek to me.


Aubrey the Malformed wrote:
The Jade wrote:
Aubrey the Malformed wrote:
Oh, and just to clarify, the UK is not part of Europe.
Because it's part of heaven itself?
No, because you can tell a European by his garlicky breath.

They shouldn't have to apologize for their cultural defense to the undead. Rumor has it a vampire hasn't been seen in Italy since 1509.

Jeremy, safe trip!

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Funniest moment of this whole thing. My grandfather told me his dad came from the UK, he didn't think he'd live to see the day when his family would move back.


What you should have done is picked the point equidistant to both Glascow and Cambridge to live in. It's not a real compromise unless both sides are equally unhappy.

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I'm also working on my accents so I sound like a local. I can do a fair scottish, and a fair Irish, but by god I can't do a good cockney english. I know I'm supposed to drop letters in the pronounciation of many words but which letters? so confusing.


Jeremy Mcgillan wrote:
...by god I can't do a good cockney english. I know I'm supposed to drop letters in the pronounciation of many words but which letters? so confusing.

Start with H.

Allo allo!

'Enry over 'eer 'edded up a 'igh council once.

Well, that's not quite right, but find the right H's to drop and you're a bit closer.

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Sarandosil wrote:
What you should have done is picked the point equidistant to both Glascow and Cambridge to live in. It's not a real compromise unless both sides are equally unhappy.

If I know my geography that would put me in the city of Leeds, and a bit to far of a commute for both of us.

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O wait I'm wrong it would me more like the Yorkshire dales. Ummm still to far for both of us.


Jeremy Mcgillan wrote:
Nah, I've met his lovely family who have visitied from there, (and boy do they have funny names, Yuna, Ganon, Cathal, and lest we forget his cousin Judith the welsh tart). But never been there...... yet.

Oi! Stop having a go at the Welsh or I'll burn your house down! ;-)

And as for Glasgow v Cambridge... Think you'll be able to understand anyone? Try watching Rab C. Nesbitt!!


Jeremy Mcgillan wrote:
Also do you think a canadian will be treated well in the UK.

Everybody will think you're from the USA! :)


Have a productive and fun time, Jeremy!

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ericthecleric wrote:
Jeremy Mcgillan wrote:
Also do you think a canadian will be treated well in the UK.
Everybody will think you're from the USA! :)

Quite likely they will I don't say "eh" after every sentence. They'll never know.


Jeremy Mcgillan wrote:
ericthecleric wrote:
Jeremy Mcgillan wrote:
Also do you think a canadian will be treated well in the UK.
Everybody will think you're from the USA! :)
Quite likely they will I don't say "eh" after every sentence. They'll never know.

How about "about" (or should that be "aboot")? ;-)

I'm from Denmark and everytime I would visit my ex in London everyone we talked to thought I was American. Apparently anyone who doesn't sound like he's from the isles is an American.


The Jade wrote:
Aubrey the Malformed wrote:
we are probably more concerned with the EU on a day-to-day basis.
I always thought the EU was good, but then it's all Greek to me.

Funny!

Spoiler:
whether intentional or not, given the current Greek situation


GentleGiant wrote:
The Jade wrote:
Aubrey the Malformed wrote:
we are probably more concerned with the EU on a day-to-day basis.
I always thought the EU was good, but then it's all Greek to me.

Funny!

** spoiler omitted **

I'm so glad to have been gotten!

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Jeremy Mcgillan wrote:
Well lets just say my husband has me terrified with cultural horror stories I know are likely half made up. But Alex just laughs he's scottish and going home is what he's looking forward too most, I'm just excited.

"Do you speak English?" ;D

Funny as that sounds, I know that I speak "American," which is not quite the same.


Aubrey the Malformed wrote:
Jeremy Mcgillan wrote:
Also do you think a canadian will be treated well in the UK. I know I'm from one of those filthy colonies but I hope I'll seem at least somewhat exotic.
unlike the Australians you don't beat us at every sport going.

Is that why you are having the Olympics in London so us spawn of convicts and Scots & Irish rebels, can come and flog you at every sport up close and personal ;-b

I kinda thought the Canadians were like the favourite child where comes to us "colonials".

We Australians are good to have around if you are in a fight, but otherwise there is a reason you sent us to the far end of the world.


Aubrey the Malformed wrote:

Once. No, actually, I'm annoyed already.

So whereabouts are you going?

Oh, and just to clarify, the UK is not part of Europe.

We are on the european continental shelf, part of the common market, we have a european culture, have representatives in the european parlement, but sure, we are little old england, doing our thing, sticking our fingers up at the french like we always have...*Nods and wonders if there is anything good to eat at the pollish shop*

Come on aubrey, we are part of europe in all practical regards, and its a really good thing we are.


Glasgow is a fantastic city. It is an awesome place, and not far from some spectacular wild walks. Cambridge is lovely, but Glasgow is awesome. Smarter people in the pubs. Third most populous city in the U.K. Lovely restored architecture. More museums and culture than Cambridge too, and the university grounds are more accessable. The river was cleaned up a few years ago. The theater district is excellent. When I hitchhiked through in 1993, Glasgow was my third favourite city in Europe, after Amsterdam and London.

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Lord Fyre wrote:
Jeremy Mcgillan wrote:
Well lets just say my husband has me terrified with cultural horror stories I know are likely half made up. But Alex just laughs he's scottish and going home is what he's looking forward too most, I'm just excited.

"Do you speak English?" ;D

Funny as that sounds, I know that I speak "American," which is not quite the same.

My very scottish in laws have really trained me to understand the language I'll put it that way.


Ahh, Glasgow, the land of Taggart. ;)
Unfortunately I am unable to think of a police/detective drama set in Cambridge for comparison. (At least Oxford had Inspector Morse.)


Aubrey the Malformed wrote:

Once. No, actually, I'm annoyed already.

So whereabouts are you going?

Oh, and just to clarify, the UK is not part of Europe.

It seems like most of the brits I encounter on the interwebs make this claim.

It is part of Europe - you don't get to choose, its not one of those things you can redefine through self labeling. Instead the rest of us get to choose for you and we know where the island is located and what part of our atlas to look in to find it.

Its as much a part of Europe as Sweden, which does not mean that culturally its identical to every other part of Europe but then the Swedes have many aspects of their culture that don't line up with Romania or Portugal either.


Jeremy Mcgillan wrote:
ericthecleric wrote:
Jeremy Mcgillan wrote:
Also do you think a canadian will be treated well in the UK.
Everybody will think you're from the USA! :)
Quite likely they will I don't say "eh" after every sentence. They'll never know.

You say it a lot more then you think I bet. I was in Cuba a few years back and the place is overrun with Canadians - many, many of whom are sure that they don't say 'eh'. Well I am sure I don't say 'eh' and I'm talking with a foreigner (a German) who mentions the 'eh' thing and I make a bet with him that he won't hear me use that phrase. I lost the bet in 15 minutes. Not only that but this guy realized he was on to something good. During the course of an evening I saw him rack up $130 by making this same bet with all sorts of Canadians. We just don't notice it when we say it or when others around us say it.

I mean if your a Hab maybe you really don't use that word all over the place but otherwise I'm near certain that you use it fairly often and simply don't notice.


Jeremy Mac Donald wrote:
Jeremy Mcgillan wrote:
ericthecleric wrote:
Jeremy Mcgillan wrote:
Also do you think a canadian will be treated well in the UK.
Everybody will think you're from the USA! :)
Quite likely they will I don't say "eh" after every sentence. They'll never know.

You say it a lot more then you think I bet. I was in Cuba a few years back and the place is overrun with Canadians - many, many of whom are sure that they don't say 'eh'. Well I am sure I don't say 'eh' and I'm talking with a foreigner (a German) who mentions the 'eh' thing and I make a bet with him that he won't hear me use that phrase. I lost the bet in 15 minutes. Not only that but this guy realized he was on to something good. During the course of an evening I saw him rack up $130 by making this same bet with all sorts of Canadians. We just don't notice it when we say it or when others around us say it.

I mean if your a Hab maybe you really don't use that word all over the place but otherwise I'm near certain that you use it fairly often and simply don't notice.

That's a great story. I could see it as a movie scene.

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Taliesin Hoyle wrote:

Glasgow is a fantastic city. It is an awesome place, and not far from some spectacular wild walks. Cambridge is lovely, but Glasgow is awesome. Smarter people in the pubs. Third most populous city in the U.K. Lovely restored architecture. More museums and culture than Cambridge too, and the university grounds are more accessable. The river was cleaned up a few years ago. The theater district is excellent. When I hitchhiked through in 1993, Glasgow was my third favourite city in Europe, after Amsterdam and London.

I hope to enjoy it to the fullest believe me.

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The Jade wrote:

Rumor has it a vampire hasn't been seen in Italy since 1509.

Jeremy, safe trip!

@the Jade: But isn't Berlusconi still PM?

@ Jeremy: Have a great time! I envy you and your fancy European PhD!


Well looks like once again I'm the only Scot posting in a thread regarding Scotland.Mind you I live up the top end and Glasgow is a foreign country ;)

Jeremy I'll just say that you and you other half will be made most welcome .Just remember not to get into any discussions over Politics, Religion or Football(soccer for our American Friends)Come to think off it in Glasgow..those are one topic not three

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Well, thanks for the well wishes. I've now been officially put onto an excercise regiment (my husband tells me I need to be able to hike in order to explore Europe properly). So the next nine months are going to include me getting into shape. I suppose if people request it I could post some pics of the newfoundland coastline and it is iceberg season.


Jeremy Mcgillan wrote:
Just got the word my time has come due. I can start my PHD in 9 months. Scary as it sounds I'm moving to Europe. Thats right the dawning of 2011 will mean I will be in the UK. All I can say is farewell North America and watch out Europe. Not that I'll think it'll be that much of a change I'm just trading one rock in the north atlantic for another.

Good luck to you and just think of it this way: even though you'll be further north in Glasgow than you ever were in Newf (unless you actually lived in Labrador then possibly same latitude) the weather will probably be much nicer in the winter!


Jeremy Mcgillan wrote:
Well, I had to compromise. My husband has a post doctorate lined up at the university of Glasgow, I have a PHD in Cambridge. So we are moving to Glasgow, I talked with my supervisor and they told me that would be fine but I would have to make a few trips to cambridge a year. So yeah I gotta find a bunch of scotts to play D&D with, it would seem.

Finding a bunch of scots to game with, that sounds like a true pleasure all on it's own.

First they HAVE to game in kilts, that way when you drop a dice it's worth it to pick it up.
Other than that I am very happy for you and again wish you the best.
I do hope you consider posting a american gamer in scotland post every once in awhile.


Jeremy Mcgillan wrote:
Well, thanks for the well wishes. I've now been officially put onto an excercise regiment (my husband tells me I need to be able to hike in order to explore Europe properly). So the next nine months are going to include me getting into shape. I suppose if people request it I could post some pics of the newfoundland coastline and it is iceberg season.

That would be cool.

What doctorates are you and your husband pursuing?

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I'm doing my PHD in Psychology specifically clinical psychopharmacology, my husband will be doing a post doctoral contract studying skuas in the shetlands. It`ll be a lot of work but hopefully a lot of fun as well.


Jeremy Mcgillan wrote:
I'm doing my PHD in Psychology specifically clinical psychopharmacology, my husband will be doing a post doctoral contract studying skuas in the shetlands. It`ll be a lot of work but hopefully a lot of fun as well.

That sound cool. Good luck to you both!

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