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James, you also have to consider how often a mounted PC can even contribute in PFS. I GMed seven scenarios at a con last month with a cavalier at the table for all seven. He could only bring his mount into one of those scenarios due to confined spaces and common sense. It's really not worth it in my opinion.
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James, you also have to consider how often a mounted PC can even contribute in PFS. I GMed seven scenarios at a con last month with a cavalier at the table for all seven. He could only bring his mount into one of those scenarios due to confined spaces and common sense. It's really not worth it in my opinion.That would depend upon the size of the mount (and rider). A small mounted character (or one that could reduce to such) can likely fit in wherever a medium sized character could fit.
Figurine is an option, but not sure if it hits a sweet spot between cost and durability. Am I wrong?
-James
Figurines are costly I agree, but in this campaign you have very few options if you aren't going cavalier/paladin/ranger don't want to dump a class level into druid or summoner. You have seen the Boon Companion feat out of SoS haven't you? It costs you a feat and a class level and starts to peter off in the high tiers, but I have seen two local players use the combo to good effect (good effect = annoying the GM).
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Medium sized PCs cannot build up the eidolon as a mount effectively with a dip. But, for a small character race, definitely do the dip of summoner. The dip 1 + feat will give you the possibility of:
For the regal and pompous who want to stand out, a medium sized griffon or hippogriff (old school) with four more evolution points to spend.
For those that want to frighten the villagers, a body can be molded like a small dragon.
For those of us that are sneaky, a fluffy llama who is more of the proverbial wolf in sheep's clothing is fun.
If you don't like big flappy wings, a wingless flying mount is also possible. It stays a medium creature, so it will be able to go through all the dungeon crawls that a half-orc could fit into. It still leaves a couple evolution points for fun additions. Energy attacks = Shocking Amulet of Mighty Fists +0. Reach is wonderfully cheap evolution when combined with the Combat Reflexes feat. AC is easy to raise compared to the natural animals. Hit points of the eidolon will be one draw back, because they are harder to boost. The other is it's will save. That will always be an issue.
The summoner is only going to get two first level spells. Expeditious Retreat can be cast on the pet through share spells, giving the pet a land move of 70' through a battle. Such speed would be a tactical advantage. Mage Armor would be the other spell I would suggest. The pet cannot wear armor, but this spell compensates well. Then buy a ring of Feather Fall as soon as possible. Then you also have cantrips. Detect Magic will tell you if the baubles the wizard is pocketing are more than pretty trinkets. Read Magic opens up many scrolls to you. Mage Hand is a must. I was personally disappointed when Prestidigitation didn't make the spell list.
Even if you used charisma as a dump stat setting it at 7, you can still take the class. You are just giving up the spells. It would not affect the mount at all.
The dip can be taken at any time and be effective. I have a gnome cleric1/summ1. My llama is level 2, with 3 primary attacks at +4, 10' reach on his bite, Move 40/70, AC 18/22, same HP as a war pony, can take 2 AoO, Evasion and Pounce. He won't fly until fifth level, but the llama is already quite powerful. (Yes, Doug Doug was talking about me.)
Leadership feat can be used to take mounts. There are rules for it in the Beastiary
1 feat for a straight classed fighter to get a dragon, griffon, or pegasus mount is pretty good, and they get levels of fighter as you level.
edit: sorry, didn't notice this was n the organized play section. Leadership isn't valid... Not sure how you would do it without multiclassing.
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Medium sized PCs cannot build up the eidolon as a mount effectively with a dip. But, for a small character race, definitely do the dip of summoner. The dip 1 + feat will give you the possibility of:
For the regal and pompous who want to stand out, a medium sized griffon or hippogriff (old school) with four more evolution points to spend.
For those that want to frighten the villagers, a body can be molded like a small dragon.
For those of us that are sneaky, a fluffy llama who is more of the proverbial wolf in sheep's clothing is fun.If you don't like big flappy wings, a wingless flying mount is also possible. It stays a medium creature, so it will be able to go through all the dungeon crawls that a half-orc could fit into. It still leaves a couple evolution points for fun additions. Energy attacks = Shocking Amulet of Mighty Fists +0. Reach is wonderfully cheap evolution when combined with the Combat Reflexes feat. AC is easy to raise compared to the natural animals. Hit points of the eidolon will be one draw back, because they are harder to boost. The other is it's will save. That will always be an issue.
The summoner is only going to get two first level spells. Expeditious Retreat can be cast on the pet through share spells, giving the pet a land move of 70' through a battle. Such speed would be a tactical advantage. Mage Armor would be the other spell I would suggest. The pet cannot wear armor, but this spell compensates well. Then buy a ring of Feather Fall as soon as possible. Then you also have cantrips. Detect Magic will tell you if the baubles the wizard is pocketing are more than pretty trinkets. Read Magic opens up many scrolls to you. Mage Hand is a must. I was personally disappointed when Prestidigitation didn't make the spell list.
Even if you used charisma as a dump stat setting it at 7, you can still take the class. You are just giving up the spells. It would not affect the mount at all.
The dip can be taken at any time and be effective. I have a gnome...
The Eidolon is not allowed as a mount in OP yet. Though rules for it will be available once the APG is published. See the discussion in this thread
Figurine is an option, but not sure if it hits a sweet spot between cost and durability. Am I wrong?-James
The griffon figurine is awesome for its price, IMO. The rest of them suck bilge water.
EDIT: Actually, I see that the PFRPG griffon is a little weaker (16 Str vs. 18 Str, 5 HD vs. 7 HD), but it's still decent-ish.
Is there a way in PFS for a fighter to have a mount that's more durable than, say, a heavy warhorse?
-James
As others have side your kinda hosed. The caviler was made to fill that role so using it or taking 1 level and then boon companion is your best bet really.
yeah boon companion will not help ya to much for a dip really.
Is it legal in PFS to use Handle Animal to befriend/purchase/train a suitable mount animal encountered in-adventure? It would still go by the normal limits, i.e. only 1 such 'pet', so I don't see a problem with it per se. You could even have another character with Handle Animal help you with this, I'd think.
Is it legal in PFS to use Handle Animal to befriend/purchase/train a suitable mount animal encountered in-adventure? It would still go by the normal limits, i.e. only 1 such 'pet', so I don't see a problem with it per se. You could even have another character with Handle Animal help you with this, I'd think.
Even if you could, if it is not on the chronicle sheet, then you would not be able to keep it when the scenario is over.
Adventure with a druid, and convince him to take the shape of a horse?
At high levels, you should be able to beg a phantom steed from someone.
Otherwise, I'm thinking your solution is ranger, druid, or cavalier.
Outside of organized play, the usual solution is leadership.
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As stated above, without taking the unique option of summoner, the cavalier is your best bet. I would question why you want to go straight fighter over the cavalier anyways? Feats are nice but for a mounted combatant not many are necessary. Speaking from organized play terms I would suggest going 8 cavalier/ 4 fighter. On the cavalier side make sure to take order of the sword. The extra damage is extreme when paired with spirited charge. When you swap into fighter get boon animal companion and specialize with your lance. Feats besides the obvious would be vital shot and improved vital shot for a small damage boost. Go 1 cavalier/4 fighter and then continue with cavalier. Also, make sure to be a small character because you'll avoid all those pesky size issues and get to ride a wolf.
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In PFS, it's simply not worth the bother, there has not been a single scenario where mounted combat has entered the picture and their probably never will be one for practicality reasons. You'll see this just by seeing how many Paladins nix the mount for the spirit bond.
Unfortunantly Lazarx is right that the society is not mount friendly. However, by using a small character and medium sized mount you can get around these issues pretty easily. You will only be limited in a few scenarios and even then will get in a devastating charge or two. But if you opt for a medium sized character and large mount I'm sorry but you will be out of luck.
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For all the usefulness of a mount, several of the figurines of wondrous power would suffice, as well as a stone horse.
In PFS, it's simply not worth the bother, there has not been a single scenario where mounted combat has entered the picture and their probably never will be one for practicality reasons. You'll see this just by seeing how many Paladins nix the mount for the spirit bond.
Not entirely true