So a friend of mine brought to me one day an interesting character since we were going to start as 4th Level characters and I was the GM. It was a Male Human Sorcerer 3 / Monk 1. He dabbled in the area as a Wrath Bloodline Sorcerer with a mix of the Dragon Bloodline with the help of the "Dual Inheritance" feat. He had taken the "Improved Natural Attack" Feat as he designated Claws for the target of the feat as both his Bloodline Powers make his hands into Natural Weapons with a Free Action. He asks me if he could stack the three separate areas that treat his hands as weapons (Monk's Unarmed, Draconic Claws, Wrathful Fists). So I would normally say "No they wouldn't as you would take the strongest one".
So the big question is can he actually stack the 1d4 Wrathful Fists, the 1d6 Draconic Claws, and the 1d6 Unarmed Strike for the grand dice total of: 2d6 + 1d4 + Strength
It is also a bit of curiosity on my part of wondering what a character is "Limited" to.
I would ask why can't he just choose one?
He wants too much, imo, but if you're happy then that's all that matters as you're the DM.
It might be better to combine the 2 bloodlines yourself and balance them before saying yes, as a player will always try to push the boundaries in their favour, with stacking those abilities as a prime example!
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I would say no he cant stack them - when a monk fights he can choose to use either a monk special weapon or his unarmed attacks or a combination of both in a flurry of blows but they can not stack - so he cant stack the damage from unarmed strike & the damage from his monk special weapon - this idea is the equivalent to what the player is asking for in stacking the different attacks from wrathful fists, dragon claws & unarmed strike - he must choose which to use but in one flurry of blows if he has three attacks he could use one attack to use unarmed strike another attack for wrathful fists & the last for dragon claws
hoipe this makes sense
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A monk can choose to use either their unarmed strike, or a weapon when attacking. As claws are considered a natural weapon, they do not stack. I don't know about Wrathful Fists, where does the bloodline come from??
For reference,
Strike, Unarmed: A Medium character deals 1d3 points of nonlethal damage with an unarmed strike. A Small character deals 1d2 points of nonlethal damage. A monk or any character with the Improved Unarmed Strike feat can deal lethal or nonlethal damage with unarmed strikes, at his discretion. The damage from an unarmed strike is considered weapon damage for the purposes of effects that give you a bonus on weapon damage rolls.
An unarmed strike is always considered a light weapon. Therefore, you can use the Weapon Finesse feat to apply your Dexterity modifier instead of your Strength modifier to attack rolls with an unarmed strike. Unarmed strikes do not count as natural weapons (see Combat).
Figured as much for the "Not" stacking those three. I thank you all for satisfying my curiosity on the matter and refreshing my mind of what CAN and CANNOT be stacked.
@ Sanwah: The PDF is:
Class Options Vol. 1: Sorcerer Bloodlines
It's only got 10 Bloodlines (3 are Seer, Nature, and Words bloodlines, while 7 are the Seven Deadly Sins bloodlines) and a bunch of feats. It's dirt cheap from what I am looking at ($2). The deadly sins bloodlines themselves got a bit of humor like for instance Lust has No Need To Fight Over Me which basically functions as "Go Attack Your Ally" most of the time in mass combat for a number of rounds equal to 1/2 your CHA mod.
So a friend of mine brought to me one day an interesting character since we were going to start as 4th Level characters and I was the GM. It was a Male Human Sorcerer 3 / Monk 1. He dabbled in the area as a Wrath Bloodline Sorcerer with a mix of the Dragon Bloodline with the help of the "Dual Inheritance" feat. He had taken the "Improved Natural Attack" Feat as he designated Claws for the target of the feat as both his Bloodline Powers make his hands into Natural Weapons with a Free Action. He asks me if he could stack the three separate areas that treat his hands as weapons (Monk's Unarmed, Draconic Claws, Wrathful Fists). So I would normally say "No they wouldn't as you would take the strongest one".
So the big question is can he actually stack the 1d4 Wrathful Fists, the 1d6 Draconic Claws, and the 1d6 Unarmed Strike for the grand dice total of: 2d6 + 1d4 + Strength
It is also a bit of curiosity on my part of wondering what a character is "Limited" to.
No they do not stack. However I would give him a choice of what damage he wanted to do with the monk's flurry of blows, bludgeoning/piercing/slashing, and I would increase the damage dice by one size (1D8) if they use piercing or slashing damage due to the improved natural attack. Thinking about it, he has spent 2 feats and 3 levels, I would give him that.
IDK too much about the Dual Inheritance feat or the Wraith blood line though. So I am not including it.
No they do not stack. However I would give him a choice of what damage he wanted to do with the monk's flurry of blows, bludgeoning/piercing/slashing, and I would increase the damage dice by one size (1D8) if they use piercing or slashing damage due to the improved natural attack. Thinking about it, he has spent 2 feats and 3 levels, I would give him that.IDK too much about the Dual Inheritance feat or the Wraith blood line though. So I am not including it.
The Dual Inheritance feat requires you be 3rd level to take. The 3rd level Sorcerer Bloodline power you would obtain you can instead trade in for a 1st Level Bloodline power from another Bloodline instead. If he continues to pick up powers from the Wrath Bloodline he will definitely be strong (STR wise as he gets +6 STR at MAX). I will give him what you suggested because sometimes being able to do one to three of those three damage types is very handy, like against Skeletons and Zombies for instance.